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    I want to follow the footsteps of EJCC! (See the very succesful thread http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...-ask-estj.html)

    So: if anyone has questions about ENTPs, ask them here!

    Fellow ENTPs, if you want to help out, that's great! BUT. I don't want this thread to derail - even if that's the thing we are usually good at... We can at least try to stay on topic instead of posting whatever and using Ne as excuse, okay?

    Any questions? I promise - I won't put you into a black hole.

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    G'luck dude, any thread with ENTP in the title is sure to attract ENTPs and, well, ENTPs can't help but be sarcastic attention whoring clowns hell bent on derailing every thread they can for shits 'n giggles, proof of this is in the Ask an ENTP thread currently residing in the fluff zone

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    Sigh. That's so true.
    Sometimes I think, on this forum, you just do what you like and when people call you upon it, you whip out those four letters and dance away merrily. I don't have to be responsible, I'm an ENTP! I don't have to be tactful, I'm an ENTP!
    You know, there is a flip side to this...
    If you want to do something that doesn't fit your type, people will look strange at you.
    I want to start a helpful and reliable question answering thread, and I'm not going to let four letters stand in my way. Like other posters have said many times, you are not a type. I'm not ENTP, I'm an ENTP.

    Even an ENTP can stick to topic. There is something like editing your post before posting, check at least consistency! There is already something like the Fluff zone and the Bonfire where you can let your Ne run wild (the Motivational Posters thread is a great one for that). You can jump from one thread to the other if one topic makes you think about the other, instead of posting every tangent into the one you're currently viewing.

    I'm sure we can do it.
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    Why am I so fucking awesome?

    I kid. I'm also interested to what comes out of this topic.
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    Question #1: As an INTP, I sometimes think "if only I could really get a handle on being a people person - or being 'good' with people - I could really take a passion of mine and dominate that field - be very successful in whatever I chose to undertake".

    I know it's probably human nature to think "if only I had this ability............then I could do that!" But, my question is this: What keeps an ENTP from really being successful and achieving all the things they've wanted to achieve?

    I know we can get into the whole "what is success" debate and "money isn't everything", but you guys are largely considered to be the entrepreneurial archetype. ENTJ's being more of a CEO type. And even if your success isn't measured in the business world, then pick your passion and tell us what obstacles keep you from getting there. If you do consider yourself to be living your dreams or already at the place you've envisioned, then tell us about that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    But, my question is this: What keeps an ENTP from really being successful and achieving all the things they've wanted to achieve?
    To me, it's procrastination. I'm restless. I can't keep my mind on one thing at a time until it's ready. I start something new, get interested in the new thing and I slack on the old one. Even if the old one is more relevant than the new one. Even if the old one is interesting and/or necessary - like work.

    Also, I wouldn't call myself a "people person". To me, a "people person" is someone who's able to remember personal information (like names, faces, occupations, interests).
    Just imagine:
    "You're such an interesting person. Remember our discussion last night? I'd like to be your friend. Er... What's your name again?"
    This is off-putting to a lot of people, you know. (Like: if you were really interested in me as a person, you'd at least remember my name! Well, I like you, I DO find you an interesting person, that's why I know you're the one with the stick-figure MBTI comics... Of course, on a forum, the name is always visible, which makes life a lot easier.)
    There are two sorts of people in the world I'm comfortable with: total strangers and friends. Aquaintances are awkward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post

    I know it's probably human nature to think "if only I had this ability............then I could do that!" But, my question is this: What keeps an ENTP from really being successful and achieving all the things they've wanted to achieve?
    -Once I figure something out, regardless of if I've finished it or not, I instantly lose interest and can't, for the life of me, get excited about it again.

    -I have too much I want to achieve at one time and sometimes I get frustrated trying to figure out what I should focus on

    -Procrastination. It's practically become a lifestyle

    -Sometimes...when I get an idea of something I want to do, or achieve, I think of EVERYTHING. All the ways it could go right, all the ways it could go wrong, how it would effect me and my life in general. And sometimes, once I do this, I don't even want to do it anymore. And then something else pops into my head, and ....on and on.
    In my defense, I am a terrible person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamske View Post
    To me, it's procrastination. I'm restless. I can't keep my mind on one thing at a time until it's ready. I start something new, get interested in the new thing and I slack on the old one. Even if the old one is more relevant than the new one. Even if the old one is interesting and/or necessary - like work.

    Also, I wouldn't call myself a "people person". To me, a "people person" is someone who's able to remember personal information (like names, faces, occupations, interests).
    Just imagine:
    "You're such an interesting person. Remember our discussion last night? I'd like to be your friend. Er... What's your name again?"
    This is off-putting to a lot of people, you know. (Like: if you were really interested in me as a person, you'd at least remember my name! Well, I like you, I DO find you an interesting person, that's why I know you're the one with the stick-figure MBTI comics... Of course, on a forum, the name is always visible, which makes life a lot easier.)
    There are two sorts of people in the world I'm comfortable with: total strangers and friends. Aquaintances are awkward.

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    OK, the procrastination I can relate to. And I definitely see your point about not really feeling like you're a people person. But, from where I'm standing (INTP - with a heavy I), you guys are brilliant with people. And they all love you (ENTP guy is so funny. ENTP guy is going out on the town tonight and a bunch of people are going - do you want to go with us?).

    I still see you guys as "people persons" though. A people person, IMO, is not defined by whether or not you can remember names and faces. People can get over it if you don't remember their name. You guys still have the ability to make new friends all day long. There's another thread going right now about how ENTP's need people around them to be productive. You guys enjoy people. I don't. I mean, I do to some extent. I like people. But, I really want to like them from a distance. Call me if you need something, and I'll call you if I need something. Be a part of my network and I'm willing to be a part of yours, but don't bother me too much. It sounds horrible. I care about people more than that, but you see my point. Compared to your INTP "little brothers", you have the "people" part of life so easy.

    Maybe we have some advantages too. When I read Bowie's post about not being able to focus on something once he's figured it out, I could relate to that too, but maybe it's much worse for you guys. I've said before that I have a 2-year window. I can stick with something for about 2 years, and then I'm usually ready to move on. For most people, that would be a pretty small window. But, maybe it's even less for you guys. Maybe you're ready to move on the next day, while the INTP's are still thinking it through more in-depth and for a longer period of time.

    Question #2: Do you really want to be in a long-term relationship or do you sometimes think you're not cut out for it? I think that sometimes. I like to connect with people on a deep level and exercise my Ne from time to time, but there are times (50% of the time probably) where I think, "I could really live alone and be happy." I've known 4 ENTP's. One divorced and doesn't want to remarry. Two are happily married but fiercely independent (one of which didn't marry until about 40 years old). The last one I don't think will ever get married.

    50% of the time, I desire to be in a relationship, the other 50% I just don't want to deal with the headaches and maintenance. Are ENTP's the same way?

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    INTPness,

    Procrastination.

    Big time.

    I had to reinforce myself with sticky notes all over my mirror, laptop, forehead, clock-goal alarm, to tattoos, whatever to keep me in check.

    ...And I seriously hated that at first, now I just look at those as "reminders" not "day killers" so to speak.

    To answer the other question.

    Well, I've actually turned on my long-term relationship radar screen now. After a few years of just having fun I want to try something deeper, not to say that I won't turn out an opportunity. I'm looking and I don't believe in that "it will happen stuff" that's like saying you will become rich and healthy by sitting in the coach eating Doritos watching TBS. Me personally, it'd kinda tough to find somebody in my wavelength. Other then that, I did too did not really want to get into a relationship after seeing my friends fail, family on and off, hearing divorce rates, unhappiness rates the whole sha-bang discouraged me.

    That changed a while ago, I had an interesting conversation with a lady I met at a Borders bookstore one day and she brought up a quote that I won't forget "It's better to live with an open hurting heart, then a cold lifeless one." I'm paraphrasing big time, but the whole idea is; what the fuck, why be afraid? How do I know things are going to turn out bad? Just because xyz? I'll never know, and all I know for sure is not doing anything is going to give me this: nothing.

    I admit, it will probably take me long to settle down (my own inhibitions and insecurities) and I too wouldn't want to "marry" for the sake of tradition, I rather be committed it for the love, not because of some unwritten code of conduct or obligation.

    P.S. There are times where I want to shut the world away too (like this weekend) but usually I prefer to be out there, even for the sake of being in the accompany with people and the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    INTPness,

    Procrastination.

    Big time.

    I had to reinforce myself with sticky notes all over my mirror, laptop, forehead, clock-goal alarm, to tattoos, whatever to keep me in check.

    ...And I seriously hated that at first, now I just look at those as "reminders" not "day killers" so to speak.
    It sounds like maybe your wild Ne adds fuel to the "P" too. That's where I think maybe INTP's might have a small advantage in getting things done. I procrastinate with the very best of them, but my Ne isn't primary. I'm thinking the fact that it's primary for you guys and can really run wild all day long probably complicates things.

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