According to MBTI, INFJs (The Protectors) are often considered the ideal partner for an ENTP, and when I read the descriptions I find online, I can't help but think that these are the girls in which I have continuously fallen head over heels for and developed great romantic relationships with - that the qualities of an INFJ are what I have been primarily searching for.
According to Socionics, the ISFps (The Artists) are considered the ENTp's dual, and are considered the ideal partners. Granted, the ISFp in Socionics is not considered the same thing as the ISFP in MBTI, that their functions are different. Nevertheless, when I read the descriptions of ISFp and ISFP in Socionics and MBTI, I find them to be remarkably similar, and that the ISFj is nothing alike.
A couple of my close female friends are ISFPs (they took the test), and truly the experience is like nothing else. It comes so easily, so naturally, so peacefully; it's always been a little spooky at first. We understand each other perfectly, complement each other perfectly, and are totally okay with who the other person is, just exactly as Socionics decribes. I am a hard person to understand, to keep up with, and they have their problems too, but it all just comes without effort. Sometimes it's like the two of us (whichever one I am with) become one person when we are together. I never look for and create these relationships. They just sort of happen randomly and develop really fast.
Like hot invigorating fire is different from cool refreshing water, my relationships with INFJs make my heart skip two beats, attract me endlessly, change me fundamentally, develop fast, and are a lot of work, while my relationships with ISFPs are sublime, keep me emotionally stable, and are incredibly necessary in my life - there's nothing else like them, and going without such a relationship puts a void in my life.
Both are different, but the experiences I get from these relationships are just so awesome. I bring this topic up because on the Socionics forums, everyone talks about ENTp-ISFp relationships and ENTP-INFJ relationships relationships are almost never mentioned. The opposite is true for any forums with an MBTI focus that I've looked at. Like a typical ENTP, I wanted to analyze
these two types of relationships together in a comparative fashion.
Have you guys ever experienced similar sentiments? Which ones (INFJ or ISFP) would you prefer to date?
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10-16-2009, 12:20 AM #1
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Hmm...No ENTP-ISFP topics. Alright then. Question: For an ENTP: ISFP or INFJ?
10-16-2009, 12:23 AM #2
ISFPs are what you can call the one person who shows you what it could be like with woman, if you are lucky to meet one (that counts for ISFP and for the woman) tho.
And ISFJs do love you, but you are never going to feel the same way. Not because you are dumb, but because your ideals are far too outer-worldly.
10-16-2009, 02:58 AM #3
I've only met ISFPs in passing but yeah I kinda get what you mean. They seem to share the attitude of wanting to explore everything and have fun exploring everything though they go about it in different ways. I want to find one! I don't think there overly rare are they?"I'd never die for my beliefs, I might be wrong"
"Is it not enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe there are fairys at the bottom of it too"
"Intelligence is being able to hold too opposing views in the mind at the one time without going crazy" - Now all I need to figure out is if I'm intelligent or crazy!
10-16-2009, 03:13 AM #4
ISFPs I find are better for a simple kind of open, relaxed and accepting experience. They really experience the present moment with intensity, and while that's inspirational to be around sometimes, and the free-spirited, largely non-judgmental atmosphere can be a refreshing change from the hyper-analytical NPs I spend most of my time with, on occasion...
I can't help but to be naturally fascinated by INFJs because they push and expand my perspectives all the time in directions that I didn't even realize were there. This is especially true of the ones with strong Fe because I'm in the process of growing into tertiary Fe myself, and Ni is still just mystical to me. (It does amazing things that I can't fully grasp or anticipate, but that are almost always so interesting!) When it comes to deeply complex mental relationships, I don't see how an ENTP could avoid letting Ne's curiosity get the better of him...INFJs win.
Occasionally you'll see an insecure male ISFP overcompensating for his shyness via super-manly Se, but for the most part ISFPs are known for giving people the fewest reasons to dislike them.If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?
10-17-2009, 04:41 PM #5
I'd love to share my perspective and opinions on this, but I've never met an ISFP or an INFJ before. Maybe I have, but I don't know for sure.
I'm still curious where I'd most likely run into them and how to spot 'em... ?
10-18-2009, 03:29 AM #6
I'm ENTP and have an ISFP sister and an INFJ sister, they're both beyond awesome and too good for any of you ENTP bastards!
My ISFP sis brings out my fun loving side, in the 'playmate' respect an ISFP would have it covered, so much fun, so much heart, and not as easy to read as people suggest, there is depth there they just change with the moment so it can be hard to see. We have a similar approach in not judging anyone but depth in conversations is hard to achieve, she'd rather just do things or have fun.
Incidentally she was/is? (we're not sure yet) in a relationship with an ENTP for about 7 years, they constantly have misunderstandings, when the ENTP pushes the ISFP withdraws and goes along until she finally cracks, her ENTP wants blunt honesty but she needs more time to figure things out and can't stand confrontation. I don't think it's a very healthy relationship but when they have fun they really have fun.
My INFJ sis brings out my inner self, we understand each other intuitively without trying and can connect easily on a deeper level, we're both keenly interested in understanding people and why they do things, I can understand the 'soul mate' aspect of INFJs, they're really easy to get along with.
That said, she's with and ISTJ and the idea of being with an ENTP is enough to make her shudder, while for me her J preference leads me to feeling as though I'm being judged at times and remain on guard.
Personally intuition is something I need in a romantic partner, but I also tend to shy away from judgers. It all depends on your preference, understanding someone and having them understanding you is what matters more that what MBTI or Socionics suggest is ideal.
10-18-2009, 03:47 AM #7
I've had two very close INFJ friends, and I dated an INFJ. They all had amazing imaginations and made me push my own boundaries. It seemed like I could have endless conversations with them. I know of two ISFP's I interacted with regularly; while they were easy to get along with, I found myself bored quite often.In my defense, I am a terrible person.
12-18-2009, 10:25 PM #8
INFJs have similar interests and understand me more, but ISFPs feel grounding and natural to be around.
Both are sensitive and both show me a different way to look at the world. I'm not good at choosing between types of people though, because everyone is so different.I have a vagina.
ENTP . 7w6 sx/sp
12-18-2009, 10:41 PM #9
INFJs intrigue and captivate me with their perspectives but yield a certain level of mental/emotional exhaustion at times.
ISFPs are a comforting escape from my chaotic thought trains, but I don't necessarily feel a deep, compelling mental connection with them.
Each has its perks and pitfalls.
07-02-2010, 02:02 PM #10
Infj's? I've been with a borderline INFJ/INTJ. Pretty boring, if you ask me. There's an ISFP that may possibly keep me entertained... If I'm going to be stuck in a relationship for the rest of my life, i.e. marriage, it might as well be someone that entertains me!
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