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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren View Post
    Yes! You only know true joy when you've been through the fire and back out again. One could say you don't need to go through the fire to begin with but I think being human beings, we will feel pain deeply before we know extraordinary joy. Or the other way around. When you know true joy you know the pain does not last.
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    "How can I be, all I want to be,
    When all I want to do is strip away these stilled constraints
    And crush this charade, shred this sad, masquerade"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren View Post
    Yes! You only know true joy when you've been through the fire and back out again. One could say you don't need to go through the fire to begin with but I think being human beings, we will feel pain deeply before we know extraordinary joy. Or the other way around. When you know true joy you know the pain does not last.
    Which could explain why so many humans are guilty of willingly burning themselves over and over again. To intensify joy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFlame View Post
    Which could explain why so many humans are guilty of willingly burning themselves over and over again. To intensify joy.
    Morphine junkies

    I don't believe in intentionally seeking out pain (certainly). I try to avoid it whenever possible and to certainly not inflict it on anyone else. But, like many others, I've been in situations (as a child) which caused enormous stress and pain for me at times. What I learned was that the pain recedes or is absorbed (in my case) by being out in the natural world (spending time in nature). After a time, your view shifts to what's around you and you don't focus so much on your own pain but on the joy of life, the life you see around you, the larger world. That leads to that joy I was talking about, the joy that emerges from darkness. The joy or light that's really always there.

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