valaki
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- MBTI Type
- SeNi
- Enneagram
- 8+7
- Instinctual Variant
- sx/sp
I dont know who associates Se with gut feelings, but thats just stupid. Sure Ni can(and will in many situations) be "fed" by Se, but its not Se that gives the gut feelings, Se gives conscious perceptions.
Seeing [MENTION=5871]Southern Kross[/MENTION]'s description below, that's the kind of gut feeling I meant. It's not possible for all the little details in the environment to be fully conscious at all times, Se just selects what's important and goes by that. And that process is not done by conscious steps. Of course the Se user is conscious of the environment around them.
I see Jung says in your quote: "The function of sense is, of course, absolute in the stricter sense; for example, everything is seen or heard to the farthest physiological possibility, but not everything attains that threshold value which a perception must possess in order to be also apperceived. It is a different matter when sensation itself possesses priority, instead of merely seconding another function. In this case, no element of objective sensation is excluded and nothing repressed" ... However I don't think cognitively it's possible to have everything fully conscious in one moment, e.g. when you are looking at a room that has 100 objects in it. It would take more than just one second for sure. On a subconscious level it's possible of course, and that's what I was talking about above. What do you think?
Btw that reminds me. When you know/use something very well, you'll be able to do it on autopilot, automatically, without it being fully conscious. Now with functions, why is there the idea that when a function is differentiated, it's more conscious? Doesn't that idea go against the fact I mentioned here? (I talked to you earlier about how I see other stuff in psychology not working out well with MBTI, this is one example of that.)