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    hm. i think it's fine to use wikipedia as ONE source of information: seanan pointed out rightly, it is a good place to gain some initial knowledge.

    Just not to use it as a de facto "everything is right" source, that's all. Information is usually biased, anyway. Cross referencing is necessary, especially in scientific research: at least 2 or more accredited sources must have obtained the same result before you can quote it in your own study.
    You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
    They called me the hyacinth girl.
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    Looking into the heart of light, the silence.

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    Wiki's are being rolled into large corporates on their intranets.

    I'm involved with one at the moment.

    They come under the heading of collaborative tools.

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    If I misunderstand you, it's only because you misunderstand groupthink.

    Consider the irony spotted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veneti View Post
    Wiki's are being rolled into large corporates on their intranets.
    Eh?

    Examples?
    I'm involved with one at the moment.

    They come under the heading of collaborative tools.
    So do dictionaries and public education.

    Ya get me now?
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    *mumbles* Have anybody tried inserting false information into wikipedia?

    A group of us tried... on a pharmacology related article... as an assignment joke. The edit was removed within half a day... subsequent repost of it was removed within half hour. They do some serious source checks for wiki...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    If I misunderstand you, it's only because you misunderstand groupthink.

    Consider the irony spotted.
    Nicely spotted!

    I still do not agree with your examples as they do not illustrate rationalised conformity. Your example of "Church" - this varies from highly intellectual theology, which is debated, to wacko cults (that are not), which exempify groupthink.

    Veneti's point illustrates the path that Wiki is going down - it seems almost destined to become a corporate tool, jokingly called *collaborative*

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    Quote Originally Posted by bananatrombones View Post
    Nicely spotted!

    I still do not agree with your examples as they do not illustrate rationalised conformity.
    That's my point.

    Who misunderstands who?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    That's my point.

    Who misunderstands who?
    Sh*t - sorry. I didn't notice from your first post.

    I admit this misunderstanding and promise to read more carefully in future

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    Wikipedia is good to get a understanding of the general background of a subject, but obviously anything learnt from it needs to be verified with other sources. Verifying should be done anyway, as the state of 'total neutrality' is near impossible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    Eh?

    Examples?

    So do dictionaries and public education.

    Ya get me now?
    Assuming you know what an intranet is (a closed internet that just resides within a corporation). Wiki's are used to share information and work in progress with many different groups. Matrix organisations always have issues with the different reporting lines so this just helps share information. I've just got involved in one as part of a much larger project and because I'm not on the functional applications side I haven't done all the rounds with the reference sites, to see it in action. Some very large companies are going down the wiki path. Company wiki's are also on extranets so various people in the field can populate data and progress (sharing information).

    Corporate wiki's need to evolve to have standard templates such as status reports on them etc... thats when they will evolve into real content management systems. I guess they will blur into the intranet as more and more functionality is added.

    Wikis are simply many preparers with many users. Versus books/reports etc which tend to be one preparer and many users.

    Most of these threads are effectively a wiki if you consider who's populating it and how info is being shared.

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