Evo
Unapologetic being
- Joined
- Jul 1, 2011
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- MBTI Type
- XNTJ
- Enneagram
- 1w9
- Instinctual Variant
- sp/sx
I'm enthusiastic about this thread because I know a male ISFP 2 sx who, had it not been for someone indicating 2s as seductive, would have left me quite confused as to where he falls on the enneagram. He's helpful, sure, but hardly. I've been with him the past year, and he definitely has needs that he tries to give to get. I'm not sure how healthy he is because I've definitely seen him utilize his "disintegration" to 8 to get his way. Probably not a very healthy chap. =/ This guy's a highly-skilled seducer with no reservations sexually speaking.
He's that male 2 here. One time we got into a huge disagreement and we decided to end things between us. (Situation is: He says he wants to marry me, and I'm pretty sure I don't want to marry him but I still care a lot.) I asked him about his day and he wouldn't tell me, which made me upset since I tell him everything. His reasoning was he already gave me too much and now needs to withhold things. I pried and pried, finally after much tension, he whispered that he returned the ring he bought me. Immediately he said he felt remorse for telling me, and he played to my guilt and compassion like a champ. I'm 95% certain he never bought nor returned a ring, and that he was saying because he knows I try to take him seriously. That need for control reflects disintegration to 8 and further removal from 4-ish authenticity.
That's some of my experience with 2 seduction and manipulation. I could go on and on, but I'll stop there.
I actually really like your example. You don't have to stop if you don't want to. It's interesting.
And I can totally see a 2 doing that. If that's an example of how they seduce, then yea I get it. The social and self pres 2's are the only ones I've met, and they just don't seem as "stop at nothing" as you've described.