Holy damn this is a hard one.
/stretches arms and cracks knuckles/
When I said ENFJ 3w4... I was going-off of a paragraph or two of information that Vetani provided me (Vetani whatever your type is I really like your vibe)... and in spite of the fact those paragraphs hit on some things that I would consider distinctly ENFJ...or at the very least make ENFJ a strong possibility... I didn't expect to feel the same way after actually watching one of Vetani's videos. In other words, I think ISTJ and ISFJ are strong contenders here and if you buy into the "population breakdowns" far more likely...but I haven't been able to rule-out ENFJ yet either.
I have considered ENFJ 3 because of my ability to be anything I choose to be. I was told by another friend that I could VI like any type I wanted to be because my blank expression is
really blank, and because of that I could put on any face I wanted.
It's interesting [MENTION=17131]Chanaynay[/MENTION] that you saw Vetani as being nervous...because I didn't get that sense necessarily... I got more of an "I'm on camera and what the hell do I say?" type feeling. Did you feel nervous [MENTION=11928]Vetani[/MENTION] or was that part of your internal experience?
I wouldn't say I was nervous. And you're right, I didn't prepare for the questions so I didn't exactly know what my thoughts were, which was why I was pausing and stumbling a lot. There's also the part where I'm not used to talking to a camera, in which case it acts like my interaction with a stranger.
Obviously, I have e6 in mind as I focus on this aspect... When I think of an ISTJ or ISFJ e6... there was something in the way that Vetani talked about making mistakes with regards to details in his work...very unapologetically in my opinion... that immediately calls ISTJ/ISFJ e6 (and e1) into question in my mind. Not ruling these types out by any means but this one small thing does cause me to question it. ISTJ/ISFJ e6/e1 and even e9w1 *details* are pretty damn important. These people feel they depend on accuracy...and in a work situation especially...that others are depending on them to be accurate. With Si often times "close enough" is "not enough" and so yah...that definitely stands out to me a bit. Now I could see an ENFJ feeling drained by details...but again this isn't enough to say Vetani's ENFJ.
It really depends on how much energy I have, and how much I care about the work. The 3 out of the 5 jobs had a heavy emphasis on procedures, and I'm not one to follow procedures because I tend to subscribe to shortcuts (because I'm lazy), even if it's not looked up upon. When I follow these shortcuts, it's because I want to be quicker and all that bureaucratic shit is slowing me down.
There's also the part where, when you're working, it's better to do a half-assed job and finish everything, than to do something halfway, but perfectly. I'm also no good with long deadlines because either way it's going to turn out the same if it were to be given to me on a short deadline.
The last job -- the one where I was working with a lot of numbers -- had short deadlines and LOADS of detailed excel sheets to go through. Naturally when I went through them there were a lot of mistakes, but I had to meet the deadline, because deadline > accuracy.
The other thing...the e6 sx/so...that is definitely going to be a counterphobic person...especially for the ENFJ...and I heard nothing referenced by Vetani in that regard <-which I find strange in a 20 minute video...not to have at least one thing that hinted at counterphobia. In other words, if Vetani is an e6...I can't imagine him being sx/so...or even an sx dom. I know Vetani has had a few outbursts here and there...but I don't know what those were regarding...or if it was just a phase or whatever. Only Vetani could tell us if he relates to counterphobia.
Counterphobia is defined as facing fear head on, and in this case, I partially relate to it. For the most part I don't really think about my fears as much as I think about who or what is going to stop me from getting to my goals.
The idea of being cockblocked by something or someone whom I have no control over REALLY shakes me up to the point where I get crippled. It happens when I'm waiting on some big news because in my head I've planned it with a happy ending, and at the moment in time, it's as if my happy ending is being taken away from me, in which then I spiral into this lazy depressive who tries to forget all his troubles with food, sleep and gaming.
That, and being stuck in a rut. I have to keep moving to be sane.
The way he continually looked up and around... I get the sense sometimes that people want to attribute that to introversion...maybe shyness... but that behavior often says iNtuitive to me. There's definitely an EN possibility in all of that as well. Here again it's not enough to rule in or out a type...but what I notice is ISxJs are more likely to prepare a bit prior to sitting down and doing something like this...a video...and to treat it in more of a literal or formal sense. So perhaps they would have planned out what they were going to say...and subsequently look into the camera far more imagining a future audience. Likewise, iNtuits supposedly...or are known to access information in their brains this way...it's almost like they need to detach momentarily from what is actually going on...the sensory information is distracting so they look up and away to recall what they are searching their minds for. The other thing is while Vetani did focus on details as opposed to concepts blah, blah, blah...I actually know ENFJs that will do this same thing. Like, they know "what should be talked about"...they know "the right information to present"..."what people want to know" <-don't know if I explained that properly but I have seen it. Still...not ready to rule out ISxJ either.
When I was staying at [MENTION=15349]SilverRvn[/MENTION]'s place, I kept pissing him off for zoning out. He'd ask me a question and I'd (usually) keep quiet. When I keep quiet it means that I'm trying to think -- but I couldn't phrase my answers correctly enough to make sense, so I answered with a yes or no to an open-ended question, and then I'd piss him off for not giving a complete answer, and then I promptly forgot what was that he asked in the first place.
As for knowing what should be talked about, I sometimes find myself screening what I should say for the things that matter. I usually clinch job interviews because I can be so unlike myself -- I'm engaging, diplomatic and tactful, and my portfolio + resume makes "the package" even better. If I'm interested in someone, I know what to talk about and what not to talk about (usually after observing them from a distance and opening up) based on what he/she likes.
When the environment gets a little more relaxed I become a loose cannon.
Shit...I'm going with either ENFJ or ISFJ based on what I have seen...but I don't feel confident here at all.
No worries, my friends can't even type me lol.
ISFJ automatically calls e3w4 into question.
The question is...?
e3 will be whatever e3 wants to be though so...
I think that's the main problem.