I have missed much of this discussion, and y'all seem to be doing a good job of hashing out the issues...
Just a few notes:
- Anything in the "Three Reasons that XXX Suck" threads should be taken as tongue-in-cheek and/or not used in a serious debate of issues. Yes, a few people took those threads too seriously, but those threads were meant more like as, "Point out the foibles in lovable ways," not "Let's trash-talk someone's type." To avoid confusion, let us just quote from threads that we can all agree on the context of the posts.
- There have been some references to past history here recently, so perhaps some of you have done some research and/or visited our sister site INTPc. All of our initial membership came from INTPc, and it was mostly an exodus of people looking for a safer/broader environment in which to post. So when newcomers here argue about "type bias," it sometimes catches us off-guard. (It is like people thrown in the drunk tank for the weekend complaining about the food to someone who survived five years in a concentration camp. Yes, maybe the food IS bad at times... but we are more appreciative of the positive aspects of the environment.)
It does not mean there are not some biases and issues to work out. But context is very important. And the people who are here are actually the ones who are trying to do better and build a more cohesive forum where more types are represented.
- It's a balance between feeling free to joke around and/or address potential conflict areas, versus feeling safe and as if one is appreciated for themselves. Everyone does have to give and take. Sometimes we'll offend each other by accident. It's just time to take a deep breath, remind ourselves while we are here, and then choose to continue to discuss. All of us can get touchy sometimes. That's just typical for a family or organization. The goal is to remember that everyone is on the same side (or that's the goal we need to focus on), then listen to other perspectives and try to accommodate others as best as we can, with the goal being what the best environment for the group is.