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Can anyone offer examples for good tert. Ti vs. bad tert. Ti?
*standing ovation*
FUCK Fi!
Some idiot kid whacked me the other day because he was oblivious to his surroundings. After I tried to get the kid to understand my point:
--stop screwing around
--even if you were sure no one was in your way, you still shouldnt be doing that
--STFU and admit that you were an idiot
but noooooo...his idiot mother was intent on convincing me that because "He didnt mean it", I should therefore, "just move on". How is he going to learn about minding others and his surroundings???
*standing ovation*
FUCK Fi!
And you people think I'm rude to FPs?
*standing ovation*
FUCK Fi!
This may just be a tertiary F thing, but who is any more than reactively aware of their tertiary function? Anyone? I notice people talk up their tertiary functions, but can rarely if ever be inveigled to blow their inferior horn. Why is that? The inferior function is the basement bogeyman, right. It exists for dragging you to hell back onto course--if you get too far into your dominant function, the inferior kicks your ass, and if you get too far from your dominant, again, inferior kicks your ass. The tertiary is one step above the inferior and yet we all talk about it like it's accessible. That whole relief role makes it a mythologically keyed in and most important device, yeah? A source of creativity. But useable? Consciously accessible? Or just there? Present. The place you go before the basement.
Good assessment.The worst of tertiry Fi - failing to express ones emotions, internalising them so that they build up pressure until you explode.
The best: The ability to remain calm and centred under stress, to display nothing of the inner thought processes until ready to do so.
Yes, usable. Not just there, not anymore. See below.This may just be a tertiary F thing, but who is any more than reactively aware of their tertiary function? Anyone? I notice people talk up their tertiary functions, but can rarely if ever be inveigled to blow their inferior horn. Why is that? The inferior function is the basement bogeyman, right. It exists for dragging you to hell back onto course--if you get too far into your dominant function, the inferior kicks your ass, and if you get too far from your dominant, again, inferior kicks your ass. The tertiary is one step above the inferior and yet we all talk about it like it's accessible. That whole relief role makes it a mythologically keyed in and most important device, yeah? A source of creativity. But useable? Consciously accessible? Or just there? Present. The place you go before the basement.
I think the older you get, the more aware of other aspects of yourself you become. But yes, I agree -- it takes awhile to become aware of the tertiary.
You made a big deal...out of *that*????
Seriously, it's one thing to accidentily do something that causes real harm, it's quite another to be jumping all over someone coz they did something small that was due to momentary clumsiness. Just coz you're better at being 'present' in your surroundings, doesn't mean you get to demand the same from others and call them a moron when they fail.
But wait..I understand...Fi isn't your strenght, I guess..maybe the mom should've realized that your weakness in fact is showing understanding to others point of view. *ponders*
*sits back and waits for people to tell him he isn't really INTJ*
raw joy
He whacked me in the face... a lil different than just bumpin into someone....
Tertiary functions help to round out our personalities once we've already gotten a good handle on the auxiliary. If we skip the aux and go straight to tertiary, we run into problems.
Good tert Ti: I can't go along with this because it's riddled with inconsistencies that violate the spirit of natural logic, and behaving illogically would threaten my ability to fulfill my duty to family/friends/community/whatever.
Bad tert Ti (note the lack of aux Fe): I don't have to listen to you or pay attention to your ideas because your feelings are silly and illogical. I don't see any reason I should have any obligation to anyone but myself.
Some idiot kid whacked me the other day because he was oblivious to his surroundings.
Did you have lasting damage?
Did you have lasting damage? Did he appologize instantly? If he did, and you weren't injured seriously, let it go. Everybody makes mistakes, that includes you. Why should you get to make yours when he doesn't even get to make a tiny one like this. Seriously, I'd pummel you on purpose right about now. You need a good spanking.
You want to pummel him because you're hurt.
The hurt that you feel is the exact same one that he felt.
Dude, I told you before that you're underqualified to be intuiting my emotions. I'm not hurt, I'm just rolling my eyes at him being intolerant. And I was semi-joking about the pummeling. I figured it was clear from the 'spanking'-sentence that followed, but apparently I have to stick to using emoticons for this. Bab and I know each other a bit so I was kinda banking on him being able to interpret my comment/joke the way it was meant.
I'm understanding his emotions a lot more through your expression of emotion. I don't know what your exact emotion is, because I'm not proficient with Fi. I do know it's the same as his, because I'm learning how to use this Fe thing a little more effectively.
Hopefully, you understand what I'm trying to get across.