Is the shadow as troubling as an eruption of the inferior? Because I can see points where I have displayed what could very well look like "unhealthy ISTJ" (in fact I comically had someone on here once suggest that was my type!) particularly during periods of my life where I felt out of wack or not balanced...so it could happen momentarily, in a flash, or I could even go through a period of my life where the inferior erupted more than it normally would.
Shadow doesn't seem like it would necessarily look as "unhealthy" and might be even more comfortable to slip into (for example if ENFP goes INFJ or INTJ goes ENTP, staying within your same little group i.e. NF, NT) doesn't seem like as much of a traumatic stretch, but maybe would just become more and more obvious later in life?
I don't know. I don't fully understand.
The Shadow Functions - The four functions which oppose the functions in our type. For example, if an INTPs function order is: Ti, Ne, Si, and Fe. The shadow functions are correspondingly Te, Ni, Se, and Fi. How these functions manifest themselves in people is unclear or inconsistent in current literature.
No, your shadow would be ESFJ.
ENTJ would be eruption of the inferior.
So does ESFJ seem more plausible to you?
just saw this. haha.
ESFJ as a shadow... i'm still not really sure what that means, though.
This might be more helpful. Write down 10 characteristics of people who utterly repel you. People who demonstrate these things - you can't stand. Then write down 10 characteristics of people that you greatly admire.
That's your shadow.
Highlander, that makes SOOO much sense because I sometimes tend to admire INFJs to the point of almost feeling inferior at times in the face of their self-control, gentleness, mad people skillz, diplomatic behavior, which is also sometimes accompanied by being funny, dark, and cool.
Then again, I'm also highly annoyed by people who are self-righteous, overly cautious, avoidant, have a stick up their butt, think they're smarter or more moral than others, or have a narcissistic messiah complex.
This could be applied to ENFJs to some degree, too, the whole adoration/annoyance, but I don't quite worship them at moments like I can with the INFJ. It's true.
INFJ worship is a platonic worship, it isn't any kind of subconscious underlying sexual fascination like I can have with some INTJs.
And I'd like to point out that I don't worship all INFJs (just like I'm obviously not gonna be attracted to or fascinated with all INTJs), and that sometimes a certain INFJ will embody all the traits I admire, others seem to only have the irritating ones I can't stand, and the rest will have a balance of both.
This might be more helpful. Write down 10 characteristics of people who utterly repel you. People who demonstrate these things - you can't stand. Then write down 10 characteristics of people that you greatly admire.
That's your shadow.
This pisses off inferior Te. I demand some consistency.
First I've heard the IFP shadow is ETJ
Then it's ITP
Now it's EFJ.
Is the shadow as troubling as an eruption of the inferior? Because I can see points where I have displayed what could very well look like "unhealthy ISTJ" (in fact I comically had someone on here once suggest that was my type!) particularly during periods of my life where I felt out of wack or not balanced...so it could happen momentarily, in a flash, or I could even go through a period of my life where the inferior erupted more than it normally would.
Shadow doesn't seem like it would necessarily look as "unhealthy" and might be even more comfortable to slip into (for example if ENFP goes INFJ or INTJ goes ENTP, staying within your same little group i.e. NF, NT) doesn't seem like as much of a traumatic stretch, but maybe would just become more and more obvious later in life?
I don't know. I don't fully understand.
acting in the opposing function is bit boring and the person soon moves away from it
This part makes a lot of sense to me, especially in terms of Fe/Ti, more so than Ni...they get boring to me, that's so true. Especially Ti.
Thanks for the entire explanation, I do appreciate it. It confirms what I suspected about the shadow being less of a catastrophe than eruption of the inferior.
It's ETJ in four-process theory, in which the inferior is called the "shadow", and anything below that is never dealt with.This pisses off inferior Te. I demand some consistency.
First I've heard the IFP shadow is ETJ
Then it's ITP
Now it's EFJ.
Check out the INFJs emphasising the content of people's lives over the value of abstract theory--did not see that coming.
Sometimes I think about this (and the INFJ tendency to poo-poo dogmatic adherence to type theories) and it still makes me laugh.
Something of interest. The vast majority of INTPs are enneagram 5 and the majority of ENTJs are enneagram 8. Fives integrate to eight but eights disintegrate to five.The Shadow Functions - The four functions which oppose the functions in our type. For example, if an INTPs function order is: Ti, Ne, Si, and Fe. The shadow functions are correspondingly Te, Ni, Se, and Fi. How these functions manifest themselves in people is unclear or inconsistent in current literature. Lenore Thompson refers to them as "double agents" and "crows nest" functions.