Zangetshumody
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I wanted to title this post:
Is it Christmas or did Jordan Peterson just try to educate Sam Harris for a whole 2 hours (in philosophy).
Sam Harris VS Jordan Peterson "What is True" 2017 - YouTube
I'm still writing notes on what I would of interjected during this exchange (imagining myself to be party to it).
I'm not entirely sure what I'll end up writing in response, but I guess others might also have opinions on this exchange.
Jordan could of made a less vulgar analogy, or made a bigger show of relying on it as categorical mode of critique (which was even made patently obvious, later on), as Sam was essentially (and probably willfully) failing to see it as a metaphorical case of critique (which I'm happy to identify as nescience), that should of forced Sam to answer the morality inside/outside question about Science, which Sam totally obfuscated at its first suggestion, and later at its natural and proper introduction within the fray.
current notes:
53:38 Jordan has dismantled Scientism world-view. (when listening just before and up to 53:38)
1:00:12 No Harris, it just subordinates Science.
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1:03:36 (I haven't finished listening to this whole video, I'm listening up to around here, but--->) Sam, this counter argument example only works, because the scenario is patently absurd, and the reason why your using it, is because your seeking to reduce human affairs to arbitrary ideological preferences, which interrelate absurdly with a 'higher' facet of factual truth (where fact and truth are regarded as synonymous arbiters of 'real events', which are being processed unreliably by human interpretation, that should non-the-less, be held in special ideological reverence for the "scientific realm", because somehow beysenian statistical theories and models, are way better than philosophy: not to mention the insoluble aspects of the scientific endeavor: the infinite between the inexhaustible and the negation (falsification is a crude tool, useful for mechanical approximation, that is being presumed through use of the Scientific Method: treatment of time as fungible etc etc).
Is it Christmas or did Jordan Peterson just try to educate Sam Harris for a whole 2 hours (in philosophy).
Sam Harris VS Jordan Peterson "What is True" 2017 - YouTube
I'm not entirely sure what I'll end up writing in response, but I guess others might also have opinions on this exchange.
Jordan could of made a less vulgar analogy, or made a bigger show of relying on it as categorical mode of critique (which was even made patently obvious, later on), as Sam was essentially (and probably willfully) failing to see it as a metaphorical case of critique (which I'm happy to identify as nescience), that should of forced Sam to answer the morality inside/outside question about Science, which Sam totally obfuscated at its first suggestion, and later at its natural and proper introduction within the fray.
current notes:
53:38 Jordan has dismantled Scientism world-view. (when listening just before and up to 53:38)
1:00:12 No Harris, it just subordinates Science.
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1:03:36 (I haven't finished listening to this whole video, I'm listening up to around here, but--->) Sam, this counter argument example only works, because the scenario is patently absurd, and the reason why your using it, is because your seeking to reduce human affairs to arbitrary ideological preferences, which interrelate absurdly with a 'higher' facet of factual truth (where fact and truth are regarded as synonymous arbiters of 'real events', which are being processed unreliably by human interpretation, that should non-the-less, be held in special ideological reverence for the "scientific realm", because somehow beysenian statistical theories and models, are way better than philosophy: not to mention the insoluble aspects of the scientific endeavor: the infinite between the inexhaustible and the negation (falsification is a crude tool, useful for mechanical approximation, that is being presumed through use of the Scientific Method: treatment of time as fungible etc etc).
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