simulatedworld
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If anyone knows or cares enough about the man who's widely considered the most influential electric bassist of all time, discuss his psychological type.
I've read a pretty extensive biography on him, and I can't come to any conclusion other than ENxP. No human being has ever been more Pe dominant, as he had a habit of ludicrous drug abuse with no limits which eventually ruined his life and was at least partially responsible for his death at age 38 in a bar fight that he started. (I know, you think this sounds more Se than Ne, but Ne can be just as reckless, especially when on drugs.) Such a fucking tragedy.
As for his actual contributions, he completely reinvented the electric bass in a way no one had ever heard. He was playing chords and melodies and using harmonics to create full arrangements with just the bass guitar in the mid 70s. He also invented fretless bass by just stripping the frets off one of his two Fender Jazz basses (which he would usually carry around with no cases, and both of which eventually got stolen from backstage at a gig because he was too Ne dom to notice) and filling in the holes with putty. Seemed like the thing to do to find a new sound at the time, I guess. (Ne/Ti has absolutely no concern for defacing an expensive instrument--it's in the name of innovation!)
For a great example of the revolutionary things he did way before anyone else even thought of doing them, look up "Portrait of Tracy", from the man who invented fretless bass guitar. It's absolutely beautiful and I've spent more hours than I can even begin to remember working it to perfection myself.
For one, he had a habit of making extraordinarily offensive jokes in totally inappropriate contexts; for instance, to the bandleader and studio engineer of a band he'd just met upon being hired to record for:
"Hey man, do you know if your roommate is gay?"
"Umm..."
"Cause his dick tastes like shit!"
Not to mention this absurdly ENTP classic encounter with another bandleader:
"Who the fuck are you?"
"I'm John Francis Pastorius III, and I'm the greatest bass player in the world."
"Get the fuck out!"
(Of course, it's only to fair to point out that at the time in the mid 70s, he was probably right. And what ENTP doesn't eat that shit up?)
The total disregard for social convention and borderline quixotic blunt confidence screams ENTP to me. ENFP is possible but I've known many an ENTP who intentionally crafted more of a zany people-oriented image in many situations and gotten off on the hero worship it tends to produce. *ahem*...
Apparently in the last years of his life when he was going pretty much completely insane, he talked about the extraordinary pressure of always having to outdo himself. It eventually destroyed him.
Anyway, does any know/care enough about him to respond?
I've read a pretty extensive biography on him, and I can't come to any conclusion other than ENxP. No human being has ever been more Pe dominant, as he had a habit of ludicrous drug abuse with no limits which eventually ruined his life and was at least partially responsible for his death at age 38 in a bar fight that he started. (I know, you think this sounds more Se than Ne, but Ne can be just as reckless, especially when on drugs.) Such a fucking tragedy.
As for his actual contributions, he completely reinvented the electric bass in a way no one had ever heard. He was playing chords and melodies and using harmonics to create full arrangements with just the bass guitar in the mid 70s. He also invented fretless bass by just stripping the frets off one of his two Fender Jazz basses (which he would usually carry around with no cases, and both of which eventually got stolen from backstage at a gig because he was too Ne dom to notice) and filling in the holes with putty. Seemed like the thing to do to find a new sound at the time, I guess. (Ne/Ti has absolutely no concern for defacing an expensive instrument--it's in the name of innovation!)
For a great example of the revolutionary things he did way before anyone else even thought of doing them, look up "Portrait of Tracy", from the man who invented fretless bass guitar. It's absolutely beautiful and I've spent more hours than I can even begin to remember working it to perfection myself.
For one, he had a habit of making extraordinarily offensive jokes in totally inappropriate contexts; for instance, to the bandleader and studio engineer of a band he'd just met upon being hired to record for:
"Hey man, do you know if your roommate is gay?"
"Umm..."
"Cause his dick tastes like shit!"
Not to mention this absurdly ENTP classic encounter with another bandleader:
"Who the fuck are you?"
"I'm John Francis Pastorius III, and I'm the greatest bass player in the world."
"Get the fuck out!"
(Of course, it's only to fair to point out that at the time in the mid 70s, he was probably right. And what ENTP doesn't eat that shit up?)
The total disregard for social convention and borderline quixotic blunt confidence screams ENTP to me. ENFP is possible but I've known many an ENTP who intentionally crafted more of a zany people-oriented image in many situations and gotten off on the hero worship it tends to produce. *ahem*...
Apparently in the last years of his life when he was going pretty much completely insane, he talked about the extraordinary pressure of always having to outdo himself. It eventually destroyed him.
Anyway, does any know/care enough about him to respond?