Holy shit there goes your F completely disregarding what I said. You in fact even proved my point in your post! you have strong thinking skills that allowed you to excel in school. When you read or write is it not necessary to do it in the most coherent way possible? do you not do that through thinking? while obviously being dominant F or T you fine tune on different aspects while doing so, you still largely do these things as a result of thinking. I'm not trying to state that since I'm a dominant T user that I'm smarter, quite the contrary. I'm saying that it is necessary to take in to account the actual words the other person is saying and you do that through thinking, at least the base core of their logic.
In my experience, it is not Ti that dictates whether or not something is coherent. It is
experience and
language ability. Someone might write something completely logical, but still get a crap grade because they suck at explaining themselves (mostly Ti-dominants). Also, some of the best writers are INFPs and INFJs. Are you saying that they're using thinking to "make everything coherent"? On the contrary, I think it is the Fi that makes everything emotionally coherent. Not the Ti. Not even the grammar is Ti-driven, because that's again, a matter of linguistic ability.
Also, in my personal experience, I don't use my Ti for determining whether something is coherent or not, or for understanding concepts. I have Ni for that. Ti comes along only when I spot inconsistencies. i.e. I don't
need Ti most of the time.
When I am engaging my thinking I obviously take in to account my Fe, right now I'm a little perturbed that you mentioned me being an "elitist" and it is evident in my post. Bluewing's emotional state is very evident in a lot of his posts despite his obvious Ti skills because we engage BOTH my point was that whatever we do as humans utilizes both, but the core of what we do at advanced levels requires competence in thinking, so Feelers are actually at a heads up in that department because they are FORCED to utilize it through education and speaking, arguing, reasoning and so on. Dominant thinkers are not necessarily forced to build up their weaker Feeling through socializing. They can and a lot of times do avoid trying then end up being socially inept yet they still can succeed in life, try avoiding thinking at its most basic level and see where that gets you.
Yes, it is evident that you're perturbed. It was also evident from my previous post that I was perturbed, and from many other Fi-user posts that they were perturbed and received the same impression as me of your's and BlueWing's posts. This impression is as follows: People who don't develop their thinking will fail at life. People who don't develop their feeling can still succeed at life. Therefore people who start out as thinkers are at a distinct advantage.
I disagreed in that I said that people who are completely unempathetic are sociopaths (and will probably end up in jail or fuck everyone around them in the head, regardless of "professional" success). You are defining "success" very narrowly, of course - which illustrates how different your perspective is from any feeler's. Therefore there is no distinction between having no feeling function and no thinking function.
i.e. By thinking that your definition of success (going to college, having professional success and money) is the only one on earth, you and BlueWing are being elitist.
Disclaimer: just in case you're F is still on fire. Do you not agree that some dominant T users are completely inept in using their F function, can they still succeed and be successful? YES. is it optimal no but highly plausible.
Do you know of any dominant F's that are completely inept with T skills? are they still very successful? probably not.
Yes, my tertiary Fi is still on fire. My professor is completely inept with F, and everyone hates his guts. He gets no respect and everyone sneers at his cluelessness. If you count that as being "successful" just based on his professional position, good for you.
Dominant Fs that are completely inept with T skills? Maybe the President of the United States of America. (joke. Well, half-joke.)
Yes, I have friends who are dominant Fes who are completely inept with thinking (by my standard) but have built so many connections that the money keeps pouring in. Not so much in this recession, but before that. Also my Fe-dominant friends who've married rich guys back home. That was their goal in life. Can't say they're not "successful".
And I'm talking to the point of not recognizing and avoiding using thinking, and when using it still inept. I'm sure everyone knows a couple of T's that are like this with feeling but I doubt you would find many F's like this who aren't retarded. Iq tests measure your Ti and Te skills to a large degree if you are competent in that then you are competent in thinking, if you are not you will most likely not have a high chance of succeeding in life. As you know all types can excel in IQ tests which measures your THINKING not your feeling in MBTI sense but THINKING and once again I reiterate you have to be COMPETENT not excellent, remarkable, great, not even good just COMPETENT.
Refer to paragraph above about sociopaths.