Critical Hit
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Noam Chomsky - INTJ.
Really? I dont see you laughing, I see the same script being played out as always when your ideology is challenged, and the inability to spell which indicates that you're either too furious to type or english isnt your first language.
What "classic moment when the socialist want (sic) to impose an authority to "protect" us from another authority"? That's a very confused statement there, what socialists want to impose an authority? Can you cite any or is that just something you've heard repeated in libertarian circles and decided to repeat yourself?
The socialists I know, like GDH Cole, Eric Fromm or George Orwell, advocated self-government but were not confused anti-authoritarians who rejected wholesale the rule of law or properly constituted authorities, what socialists are you talking about?
What is "feodalism"? Did you mean feudalism? Just describe for me a moment what feudalism is would you, I've a very strong suspiscion that you're using that word without any knowledge at all of the historical epoch refered to as feudalist, or how it is supposed to resemble socialism for that matter, as a simple synomyn for "a very bad thing".
There's a very good chance that depending on how you answer I'm just going to begin ignoring you because I'm becoming less and less convinced that you know what you're talking about when you enter political threads and become argumentative to cover up for it.
What about the members of the rock band Rush?
Feudalism is " I force you to obey me and then I'll protect you", and it's exactly what socialists do, especially toward the concept of welfare state.
End of the story.
Noam Chomsky - INTJ.
The basis for socialism is the same as the basis upon which the United States government was founded: a social contract.
He's not his musical persona.- I don't know for sure what type 50 Cent is, but definitely not ISFJ
Feudalism is " I force you to obey me and then I'll protect you", and it's exactly what socialists do, especially toward the concept of welfare state. End of the story.
Social Contract is a fiction, didn't you know that? Contracts can only be made by individuals and based on consentment, as libertarians say, but not collective or based on coercion as for socialism.
You need to do a bit more reading.
You need to do a bit more reading.
Corporations aren't individuals, and they enter into contracts all the time.
Speed, you sound like a young man who's just discovered Ayn Rand.
I understand it's very tempting to think you've just found the one right answer to the age-old problem of how to create a just society, but trust me, there's so much more.
Try putting aside your preconceptions and reading some Chomsky. A few good books on the interrelationship of ecology and capitalism might also broaden your perspective. We have an economic system predicated on continual growth and a planet of limited physical resources. Might there be some essential disconnect between these two things?
Bullshit. Corporations are led by individuals and theses indiviudals, as well as thoses who colaborate with them, are individuals. You only have to respect contract that you have signed up personally, and social contract don't exist.
No. The principle of economy is to manage with the reality or rarety. And socialism try to deny that reality, the motto of a socialist system is "the ressourced are unlimited, only thing we have to do is to share, enslave people and steal to the rich".
Corporations aren't individuals, and they enter into contracts all the time.
Yes, he does, I quite agree.
Speed, you sound like a young man who's just discovered Ayn Rand. I understand it's very tempting to think you've just found the one right answer to the age-old problem of how to create a just society, but trust me, there's so much more.
Try putting aside your preconceptions and reading some Chomsky. A few good books on the interrelationship of ecology and capitalism might also broaden your perspective. We have an economic system predicated on continual growth and a planet of limited physical resources. Might there be some essential disconnect between these two things?
V from V for Vendetta: INTJ 4w5 Sx/Sp