onemoretime
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Then why did I offend you?
Because that sort of attitude is really, really obnoxious.
Then why did I offend you?
There you go, Fe users. We don't make contingency plans against you because we assume you're not the kind of fuckup that destroys for the sake of it.
Because that sort of attitude is really, really obnoxious.
So you are offended because I attacked your credibility because it is obnoxious, not because it actually has the affect of reducing your credibility. So I am now allowed to attack it because it has no affect. Are you going to be offended if I do because its obnoxious?
There's a way to do everything. Certainly, you understand that.
Flex the Fe a little bit. It makes the process so much easier.
There's a way to do everything. Certainly, you understand that.
Flex the Fe a little bit. It makes the process so much easier.
We do it both in-head and out-head. In-head is faster, and eliminates lots of "obvious" problems, and is rather accurate if one has real experience and intuition with an issue. Out-head is slower, and used at toward the end of the process, or from the get-go when real results are needed sooner. There's external feedback, but that's the Te, instead of the Se or Ne.This sort of seems like it parallels how I develop ideas-except I externalize them to others over and over again, to refine them-and likely affirm them. I will stumble across an Ne connection, link to several other previously observed connections, then build a functional pattern. Then I bring it here and just keep dropping it in places on various threads hoping for feedback or I will work with my ENTP to identify flaws. I am very often wrong-but I need that external feedback to help me understand how I am wrong. I cant do what you do in your head-the quality assurance.
Yes, this is similar for me. For Ni/Te, it's like using Ti/Ne, except Ni is in the Ti role: the patterns are largely internalized, and the internal patterns are compared with reality via Te. You're just using external patterns with Ne.Internally, I take the pattern and just keep cross checking it against newly observed patterns. So every idea I have really needs a percentage certainty added. In addition the ideas are never, ever complete. The are skeletons that-sort of like those graphs of mandlebrot sets-can be endlessly refined downwards with new patterns in old patterns. The first pattern can be built into larger patterns.
Ha!One of my most trusted patterns is the "ENXP Symmetry Model". This means that every thing I see an ENTP can be back predicted onto what an ENFP would do and visa-versa, but the action will be reflected in reverse via the two judging functions. Sounds cute until you find yourself looking at your own flaws-flaws you never knew you had till you found an ENTP's flaws. You learn a lot that way.
I do something similar, but I don't put numbers on it. It's more like UNGH! or ungh or ung. The importance is felt (with Ni) more than quantified, even though Te plays a role. Te will translate UNGH! into "95%".So this model gets a 95% certainty score. An ESXP Symmetry model gets a 85% certainty. An INXJ Symmetry model-A 30%-it should be there but I dont have data and I dont understand introverts and I dont understand how Ni...Thus it sits as a puzzle simmering over in the corner. Yet I will still externalize the possibility.
I dont like having to externalize ideas, but I suppose that's the i/e diff. I keep going back to the same place-how do you know the "conversation" has covered all possibilities? How do you know there is no neglected dust mite in the corner? Since it doesnt seem you guys can "see" the Fe conversations, how can you be certain they will not interfere with plan-or it sounds like maybe you learn to account for them as you grow, without ever really understanding them?
A: why would you ask?
Gawd, people. Srsly.
Because that sort of attitude is really, really obnoxious.
Deja vu from page 50-75.
Does possession of Ne-Ti make you unable to read the opening post of the thread an identify that the topic of conversation is ENFP-INTJ relationships?
If every ENTP on the forum is going to come in here and totally fail to understand the topic; or simply be too lazy to open a thread entitled 'ENTPs with irrelevent ENTP comparisons, opinions and off topic posts in the case of INTJ and ENFP relationships' then perhaps I should complain to the admins for some order.
I think many of us have been more than indulging and patient.
wow what is that...ugly fe? i'm not too familiar.It's not my fault you couldn't sustain the topic at hand. It's not my fault, either, (well, I guess it is) that the topics ENTPs have brought up have been far more stimulating of discussion than the original conceit of the thread.
Quit blaming others for your personal disinterest. If you don't like where this one is going, start another one like Amar did, and try your best to not be boring this time.
wow what is that...ugly fe? i'm not too familiar.
thank god it's friday. I am convinced everyone at my workplace is neurotic and/or depressed.
Since this thread is totally screwed:
Does anyone know how to remove black permanent marker from the front of wooden cabinets?
Also, I pulled the smoke detector out of the ceiling and now there are just wires hanging there. Is this a fire hazard?
It's not my fault you couldn't sustain the topic at hand. It's not my fault, either, (well, I guess it is) that the topics ENTPs have brought up have been far more stimulating of discussion than the original conceit of the thread.
Quit blaming others for your personal disinterest. If you don't like where this one is going, start another one like Amar did, and try your best to not be boring this time.
If someone doesn't like a post don't reply. Simple. Most entp's don't respond well to direct confrontation. So you should divine your deeper motives.
If someone doesn't like a post don't reply. Simple. Most entp's don't respond well to direct confrontation. So you should divine your deeper motives.
You guys are so self-absorbed.
How to Remove Permanent Marker : TipNut.comthank god it's friday. I am convinced everyone at my workplace is neurotic and/or depressed.
Since this thread is totally screwed:
Does anyone know how to remove black permanent marker from the front of wooden cabinets?
If it's the typical battery-operated kind, no. There's no power without the battery. If it's part of the household wiring, yes, it is a hazard.Also, I pulled the smoke detector out of the ceiling and now there are just wires hanging there. Is this a fire hazard?