Scott N Denver
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Hello all!
To put this topic in a little bit of context, I am an engineer by current profession, a former "laser research physicist", and spent a lot of time in grad school. All of those are/were extremely NT/TJ/NTJ environments. As in "look, someone who isn't an INTJ?!?!?!?" While one might initially think that research should be like a total ENTP playfield, in all of my experience its actually EXTREMELY INTJ with a dash of INTP, a smidgeon of ENTJ, and maybe maybe maybe an ENTP somewhere, far away, that you only see once in a while when passing in the hall. [My background is mostly physics, other fields are definitely much less INTJ populated. I'll bet I've been several places that were 75% comprised of INTJ's]. So my questions is "How do we as NF's deal with working in TJ environments?" If you wish to refine to NTJ environments in particular please feel free to do so. Realistically, most people that get selected for management/leadership tend to be TJ's, so I'm expecting that many people should be able to respond from personal experiences, even if you don't have a very math/technical background or work environemnt.
I think it noteworthy to point out that I've almost never had problems dealing with ISTJ's. In my experience they tend to see that you are trying and making progress and that suits them fine so they don't generally feel any need to nitpick/refine how you do things. I've seen ESTJ's go that way sometimes, or else be very critical of how you do things. In my experience it's the NTJ's that seem to constantly be very critical. Or perhaps its just physics NTJ's that seem to really ooze the critical vibes???
Responses?
For other NF's who might be in research, what general field are you in and how would you describe the feel of it? Does if feel NTish, NFish, both? Do you feel comfortable, accepted, like you belong?
To put this topic in a little bit of context, I am an engineer by current profession, a former "laser research physicist", and spent a lot of time in grad school. All of those are/were extremely NT/TJ/NTJ environments. As in "look, someone who isn't an INTJ?!?!?!?" While one might initially think that research should be like a total ENTP playfield, in all of my experience its actually EXTREMELY INTJ with a dash of INTP, a smidgeon of ENTJ, and maybe maybe maybe an ENTP somewhere, far away, that you only see once in a while when passing in the hall. [My background is mostly physics, other fields are definitely much less INTJ populated. I'll bet I've been several places that were 75% comprised of INTJ's]. So my questions is "How do we as NF's deal with working in TJ environments?" If you wish to refine to NTJ environments in particular please feel free to do so. Realistically, most people that get selected for management/leadership tend to be TJ's, so I'm expecting that many people should be able to respond from personal experiences, even if you don't have a very math/technical background or work environemnt.
I think it noteworthy to point out that I've almost never had problems dealing with ISTJ's. In my experience they tend to see that you are trying and making progress and that suits them fine so they don't generally feel any need to nitpick/refine how you do things. I've seen ESTJ's go that way sometimes, or else be very critical of how you do things. In my experience it's the NTJ's that seem to constantly be very critical. Or perhaps its just physics NTJ's that seem to really ooze the critical vibes???
Responses?
For other NF's who might be in research, what general field are you in and how would you describe the feel of it? Does if feel NTish, NFish, both? Do you feel comfortable, accepted, like you belong?