Costrin
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Where did that zarc guy's post go?
Hmm... ya I guess.
Oh snap, I'm dealin' with someone who has actual learnin' in the area?
I didn't mean to imply that. Judging doesn't create new ideas, it just replicates what it sees.
Mmk. One thing though, if Perceiving is unconscious, and Judging conscious, does that mean that a primary Perceiving type is... more unconscious than a primary Judging type or something?
Mmk.
Hmm... not sure about this. It doesn't feel this way for me. It seems as though for me that my Thinking is capable of rapidly comparing information to my model, and the majority of information I receive is already (not necessarily the exact information, but an equivalent) integrated into my model, so is efficiently deal with. I guess I'm saying that Judging (specifically Thinking in this case) is at least somewhat unconscious.
Could you elaborate?
I guess I meant, not that we can't access it, but that we can't really know if two perceiving functions can happen at the same time.
Hmm... ya I guess.
Yeah I don't like that whole area of the brain thing. I just don't buy it. If there's one theme to what I've learned as a cognitive science major, it that the brain is much much more complicated than that.
Oh snap, I'm dealin' with someone who has actual learnin' in the area?
Judging can change models in that it can throw out something or validate it. But it can't come up with something novel.
I didn't mean to imply that. Judging doesn't create new ideas, it just replicates what it sees.
It's not fast/slow...it's conscious/unconscious. Also, instinct is in the realm of sensing, it's not outside of cognitive functions.
Mmk. One thing though, if Perceiving is unconscious, and Judging conscious, does that mean that a primary Perceiving type is... more unconscious than a primary Judging type or something?
You're right. It does process the information. I shouldn't have left that out. Visual information hits the retinas, but it's still sensing until the time it's a three dimensional representation. Same with all senses. Once metaphor and analogy step in, though, it's intuition.
Mmk.
I just doubt anyone actually thinks true/false more than "this is important"/"this is not important". Feeling narrows down the possible things you have to think about. If Feeling didn't reign over thinking, we'd be wasting a shitload of time.
Hmm... not sure about this. It doesn't feel this way for me. It seems as though for me that my Thinking is capable of rapidly comparing information to my model, and the majority of information I receive is already (not necessarily the exact information, but an equivalent) integrated into my model, so is efficiently deal with. I guess I'm saying that Judging (specifically Thinking in this case) is at least somewhat unconscious.
I don't think they're paired in actuality. I just think they're useful to talk about together because any good idea has to have an extroverted counterpart and introverted counterpart, as well as a perceiving and a judging counterpart.
Could you elaborate?