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2020 Democratic Party primary thread

Julius_Van_Der_Beak

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I lived through Dubya and Cheney as an adult; and while I had my issues regarding that administration, the situation is far worse today from a broad ideal perspective (a lot of the structure of government is being eroded/destroyed) as well as a lot of specific policy decisions that have specific negative impact on demographics outside the administration's favored. I honestly don't know if this country will recover structurally from the erosion of processes meant to support some kind of order and law. too many inequities, too much imbalance, too little respect for process, an eroded trust, growing economic imbalance, all the prior norms that sustained us being thrown out the window -- so it will be easier in the future for similar erosion and/or worse to occur.

You also didn't graduate from college in the middle of the recession that they caused (and I suspect you had a comfortable job at that point) , so I think you're lacking in empathy.

As for norms, those are shit, because they allowed them to get away with what they did. What good are they?

Yeah, a war is a war. Wars suck.

I think they do worse than suck. Not to mention that they were based on lies.

The thing is, I have no doubt that along with all the extra problems this administration has caused, if it would benefit the leaders personally to go to war tomorrow, they would do THAT too -- if they don't inadvertently trigger one out of bad decision making and stupid jockeying for self-esteem.

They would, but I cringe at the number of liberals praising the likes of Podhoretz and other neocons simply because they don't like Trump due to his isolationism. If John Bolton testifies at the impeachment, they'll call him a hero.
 

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Read the post above you. Someone gets it. You don't.

It explains why they think Trump is worse than Dubya. I don't see how that translates to what the electorate wants. But maybe my reading comprehension is poor.
 

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"Waaaaaaah there was a recession. Save meeeeeeee! Pay meeeeeeee! Help meeeeeee!"

Fuck me. Have a cookie.
 

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"Waaaaaaah there was a recession. Save meeeeeeee! Pay meeeeeeee! Help meeeeeee!"

Fuck me. Have a cookie.

You're right. Most Americans were not affected by the recession and did not care about it. I stand corrected. You are incredibly in touch with what's actually going on, and not just talking points.
 

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You're right. Most Americans were not affected by the recession and did not care about it. I stand corrected. You are incredibly in touch with what's actually going on, and not just talking points.

Are you sure you're not in the Trump family? Facts are not your friend.
 

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Are you sure you're not in the Trump family? Facts are not your friend.

Has it ever occurred to you that there's a reason socialism is more popular among millennials, and perhaps it might have to do with reasons other than them being lazy bums?
 

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It's a bird. It's a plane. It's someone who can't back up a position with facts. Are you posting from the White House? ;)

Meh, why don't you take a page from the Clinton playbook and call me a Russian asset?
 

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Question on the table for anyone to weigh in on: Are millennials lazy and what do they want?
 

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Question on the table for anyone to weigh in on: Are millennials lazy and what do they want?

Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class what you think, or are you just trying to do some shit-stirring?
 

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Shit-stirring it is then.

Just because you don't like a question doesn't make it shit-stirring. You brought up the topic:

Has it ever occurred to you that there's a reason socialism is more popular among millennials, and perhaps it might have to do with reasons other than them being lazy bums?

Don't worry, someone else may come along to explain your post for you.
 

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Just because you don't like a question doesn't make it shit-stirring. You brought up the topic:



Don't worry, someone else may come along to explain your post for you.

You never answered my question.
 

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You never answered my question.

How can I answer a question without knowing if millennials are what you claimed? What is your basis for calling them lazy bums? One person? Two? Three? A thousand? Furthermore, I think anticlimatic would be a better person to discuss this so-called millennial laziness with, as he has made several posts on the topic.
 
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