Southern Kross
Away with the fairies
- Joined
- Dec 22, 2008
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- MBTI Type
- INFP
- Enneagram
- 4w5
- Instinctual Variant
- so/sp
4s = letting their emotions all out!
9s = keeping their emotions in for the sake of harmony
4s = drama
9s = no-drama-Obama
These are overstated, inaccurate stereotypes.A full blown Four will respond to an offense by being combative, childish, and making a fool out of ourself at times. A full blown Nine, wont respond. You all are simply too good to. It's sort of a stubborn snootiness.
People try to make 4s out to be hysterical drama queens. 4s are emotional people but they don't necessarily wear their heart on their sleeves. I'm far more emotionally contained than almost everyone I've met. And it's not just the 4w5s; look at Lady Gaga (a 4w3). She's so chill, composed and not very emotionally demonstrative at all.
I also dislike conflict but I can cope with it better than a 9 - and it's only under extreme circumstances that I become combative and childish.
This is a much more accurate summary.4's emotions are volatile; 9's emotions are stable. 4 tries to dig as deep into hurt as possible; 9 tries to avoid hurt if possible.
This is also pretty great.4s like to revel in their sense of personal misery and really dig deep into their emotions whereas 9 try to avoid feeling anything, especially pertaining negative emotions, at all. 4s are also reactive in conflict, meaning that when they feel emotionally slighted they will run away and expect others to chase them. If people chase it means they mean something. 9s are as a whole not reactive and tend to do the opposite because 9s dislike conflict.
4 is situated in the heart center so the primary issue they deal with is shame which they cover up with their type's passion being called envy whereas 9 is a gut type and the primary emotion they deal with is anger which they cover up with their type's passion being called sloth. As the words imply, sloth and envy are very different although there are similarities here between the 4 and 9 in that in order for the 4 to be envious, there must always be a constant compare and contrast due to a sense of deficit within themselves. What they have or what they are is never good enough. 9s also contrast and compare themselves to other people but whereas the 4's envy will make them take upon an identity they are not because they are envious, 9s take upon identities they are not because they have difficulties separating themselves from the world around them. Both are ego types but whereas the 4 has a strong sense of ego the 9 does not. The 4's life desire is to create an ego that is unique whereas a 9's life desire is to have their ego entirely merged into the world around them.
Other differences include that 4s suffer from a masochist personailty and often attempt to attract a rescuer. 9 suffer from indolence and psychospiritual laziness which pretty much leads to the opposite attitude of there never being a problem. This is part because 4 is a part of the reactive triad and 9 the positive outlook as it is the positive outlook that makes the 9 inclined to forget and ignore hurts. Both 4s and 9s are prone to create fantasies in their heads about how reality should really be like, but 4s do it because they desire to be something which they are not due to envy. This cannot be better expressed than in the story of Cinderella where Cinderella is looking outside her window, sighing that what if she was a noble princess and she could go to the ball like the others. This is very opposite to how 9s create fantansies because in this scenario the 9 would think more in the lines of, I'm having it so good with the prince being so nice to people in this country, hosting balls for all the nobles to participate in. Our prince is so nice, and they would think this irregardless of whether as a whole, the prince is in fact "nice" or not.
There are probably other similarities and differences but these are the one I can think of from the top of my head.