Detecting Socionics Types (Socioniko)

[Norrsken]

Test

It is basically a table. You start from the left side and pick one of the two options, and then keep moving to the right until you get your socionics type.
I hope I'm making sense. :l
Make sure you read both descriptions under each step before making your choice.

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My Result
Intuitive-ethical introvert
(irrational)
INFp

1. A somewhat idealistic romanticist. He is a person prone more to reflection than action. An individualist. He is little concerned with the present; he is more excited by brilliant perspectives of "bright cities, which may be built one day". His emotionality is of a high enough level, he understands very well the feelings of another and does not hide his own. But his emotionality is always somewhat restrained in order to observe the effect it produces. He expresses emotions not when another’s patience would get exhausted, but when he himself (she herself) considers it necessary. His way of handling emotions is very creative: for example, he may consider rage to be ethical, and restraint non-ethical.
2. Easily infatuated. What makes another stand out for him is forcefulness, drive, insightfulness, naturally if this force lends itself to the influence of his emotions. He is very tolerant to people, understands them and tries to forgive their weaknesses.

3. Tutankhamon’s smile. His line of defense in extreme conditions is his skill to demonstrate his attitude toward the situation, to reveal its comical aspects. So he has a fine sense of humor and possesses a very characteristic transparent smile, which appears at critical moments. His smile is warm, warming and exciting. However, his smile is in most cases caused by inner anxiety; the natural purpose of this smile is to raise his partner’s fighting spirit, to stir him up.

4. Elegant. He comes off as steady and upright. He practically never squints his wide-open eyes. Typically, he is not prone to lower his arch-shaped eyebrows. Elegance is an every day thing with him, not something reserved for outings and special occasions. One can seldom see him in a non-aesthetic pose, his voice intonations are also refined, and movements are plastic and even rhythmic. In the light of the aforementioned two things are amazing: he does not care much for the elegance of others (his dual, The Commander, is emphatically non-demonstrative); chaos reins in his living quarters; both things and people which enter his home should find their places by themselves, or with the help of someone other then the Lyricist.

5. A struggler for the emotional naturalness of people. He feels responsibility for mood of his friends and relatives, for their vital tonus. He uses his fine sense of humor to make them laugh, shake them up. In a company he scans the attendees not in order to find out what they are wearing, but in order to remark how each is feeling: this is exactly what he needs to relate to others. In general, he dreams of bringing harmony into society. History means to him history of the arts. He strives for beauty, which may be – poetry, arts, even nice trinkets. He himself strives to be refined. He adores communication with artists, poets, bohemians, and in general with exotic people.

 

[wolfnara]

Step 2 was hard. My choices led to ENFp.

 

[á´…eparted]

This is useless to me- I can not really decide between nearly all of the dicotomies.

 

[Norrsken]

This is useless to me- I can not really decide between nearly all of the dicotomies.

Sorry to hear. :/

 

[Chrysanthe]

This is useless to me- I can not really decide between nearly all of the dicotomies.

This might be why: "However, we do not approve using it for self-identification." That and the first two steps are difficult to relate to at all for me.


regardless, I did it anyways, skipping the first two steps out of confusion, and then got...

INTj and ISFp

 

[Yama]

ISFp

 

[Hawthorne]

The words "objective reality" have always skeeved me out a bit.

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INFj

 

[Punderstorm]

This was hard, I somehow got ISFj,INFj and INTj based on my answers and reading through the type descriptions.

 

[fetus]

INFp

 

[Snickie]

I had to zoom in on the window so I'd only see one thing at a time.
I couldn't relate well to step 1 so I went on from step 2 and went in blind from there, got ILI (INTp).

Honoré de Balzac—the French writer.

1."Imagination directs me". He possesses a powerful, intellectual imagination. A representative of this type, Honoré de Balzac, in his series of novels, The Human Comedy "painted" the portraits of more than 2000 people who appear hyper real: "he is comparable perhaps only to the city controller's office" —wrote of him Andre Maurois. Similarly, the phantasmagoric world of Gabriel García Marquez is impressively precise in every detail. Due to this quality The Critic can forecast the future quite well. From empirical observations of how a man acts at various times he creates something like a functional model in his mind. In general, he tends to know everything in advance. If he did not have to warn other people about possible dangers (opportunities interest him less), he most possibly would feel himself redundant.

2."A priest's calmness and restraint". He almost never expresses emotions and protects from them his family and friends. He sincerely believes that passions, too strong, will lead one to his doom. Honoré de Balzac has constantly demonstrated throughout his literary works how passion spreads like a devastating cancer that eats away the souls of men until it finally suppresses all else. This holds totally true in the case of his dual (Caesar, The Politician), a hyperactive person that easily gets carried away.

3.A profound analyst. He is convinced that living is impossible if one disregards the natural laws that regulate the world. One who ignores reality is heading for disaster. The Criticist believes that it is better to be somewhat too cynical then be a hypocrite. Hearing of a situation, he very soon thoroughly understands it and begins to tell to the bewildered interlocutor the details and aspects that the latter had overlooked. His analysis is devoid of any self-encouragement. "You shouldn't have a different attitude towards life than you have for the kitchen—the same amount of stinking odor; if you want to cook a dish, you'll have to get your hands dirty, just make sure you'll be able to wash the dirt off once you are done; that's the entire moral of our day and age."—So speaks Vautrin, a hero of Balzac's books. Such misanthropy can kill the anybody's spirits, except his dual (The Politician)!

4."First and foremost, he is kind". In spite of all his "negativism", he is really a very kindly person in nature. The above phrase about Honoré de Balzac belongs to George Sand who knew him very well. He likes strong people who know their way in life, who demand concessions: such people release him from the necessity to invent goals, while using methods invented by him (he is a master of inventing methods.) He is capable of pouring a bucket of cold water out on the head of an enthusiast. But on the other hand, he is likewise capable of easing one's despair, when they are unlucky, when things go the wrong way, when destiny seems to be hostile.

5.Unapproachable and thus desired. A girl-student by the name of Laima (The Politician) gave a good description of this type when she tried to describe the hero of her dreams: "He must be handsome and smart, with big and sad eyes, not talkative. He does not tell compliments, and by that he creates an impression of his inapproachability. He is taunted by myriads of problems, which, in my opinion are nothing to be bothered with. I am attracted by his sadness, seriousness, so I try to amuse him, to raise his spirits, to make him happy. If such a boy is present at a party, I wouldn't be bored." This is a vivid description of this personality type, who is constant in his feelings, does not like adventures, and desires total dependence of his demanding partner.

Your dual (psychologically complementary type): Caesar, The Politician (sensory-ethical extravert).

Sounds a lot like me. I think. Maybe.


Now that I've taken this mostly unbiased, I can look at everything else:
Step 3 was the next one I was torn on. Following the other direction, I would've ended up with LII (INTj)

Maximilian Robespierre—the leader of the Great French Revolution (1789—1794).

1. "I think therefore I am". He is a man of developed logical faculty, a strong capability for analysis. He knows how to dig to the essence of things, to reveal their internal structure. "Providence has created myself for quiet study work, to which it dedicated all the rapture of my soul", – said Thomas Jefferson, during whose presidency the territory of the US has grown nearly double. He considers all situations of life from the logical viewpoint.

2. "Justice is my trade". This is a type of a revolutionary or a political conspirator. In a conflict situation he usually organizes a committee to punish the offender. He believes that everything in the world must be logical and consequently just. He is capable of neglecting his own profit and safety when defending the offended. He sets for himself very high requirements. Unless somebody else takes care of him, he can easily drive himself to starvation. Garibaldi, Robespierre, Dzierzhynski, Jefferson are revolutionaries who devoted themselves to an idea.

3. Ascetic. He appears extremely uncompromising, often looks down with a piercing look from under his philosopher’s forehead. He toughens himself, training for the cold, starvation, losses and disapproval of others. The only aspect where he willingly concedes to his partner is the issue of dressing, taste and routine chores. The necessity to be responsible for these things irritates him. Usually he even does not notice the quality of his clothing. He does not tolerate orders. His dual The Bonvivant, as if being aware of that, involves him into work not by direct orders but begins to fuss about, to make a lot of unnecessary movements – then The Analyst gets involved, and the work goes rapidly, logically and soundly. He himself does not show much initiative, is reclusive and silent.

4. Somewhat tender and capricious. His self-sacrifice in defending justice becomes especially mind-boggling, if one knows that he feels irritated by everything that disturbs silence and the measured way of his life. He is very concerned about living healthy. Thusly Rene Descartes "considered health as the principal of mortal goods second to the Truth". In his youth he often tends to a cheerful lifestyle with many friends, games of chance, booze. Later he comes to the conclusion that all those things are something other than what he really needs. He is not very ambitious but he does not tolerate when others get ahead of him in their career, out of the same feeling of justice. He finds himself in an especially hard situation when having to obey a boss whom he does not respect.

5. "He led a happy life who sheltered himself well". He is very secretive, dislikes uninvited visitors. He sharply reacts to reprimands, but sometimes hides his irritation under an artificial smile.

Your dual (psychologically complementary type): Hugo, The Bonvivant (ethical-sensory extravert).

First glance made me think this didn't sound like me but then I read it again and it's starting to sound more accurate.
Maybe in my video (once I ever get around to making it) I'll do a Socionics questionnaire instead of an Enneagram questionnaire.

Just for funsies, I'll look at my original Socionics result (SLI)

Jean Gabin—the French movie actor.

1. An iceberg in the ocean. He is obstinate, reclusive, almost always equally cold and enigmatic. His movements are quiet, precise, and very economical: other people often get an impression that his results disproportionately exceed the efforts invested. He is characterized by non-ostentatious quiet persistence and reliable accomplishment of everything he commenced, internal responsibility for deeds and modesty. Like a typical Briton, he is not ostentatious in his attitude towards work, as well as not demonstrative in revealing his feelings at all. At first he may seem to do everything coolly, carelessly. But gradually it becomes clear that his unhurriedness reflects his general tempo of life: a combination of relaxation and perfection.

2. Talented laziness. Unlike The Seeker, he will scarcely spend his energy for futile work. He is a born inventor, but he does not hurry with the implementation of his ideas, until conditions for maximum effect will ripen. He is proud of his capability of not doing unnecessary things; adores comfort and conveniences. When performing common tasks together with somebody else, everything very easily and without pressure from his side goes the way he likes. All space accessible to him is organized ideally for work and rest. He is an aesthete who completely trusts his taste. He dresses very neatly, with taste, but as a rule not challenging convention. His skin is sensible: "a princess on a pea" must have been said about a woman of this type.

3. Reserved richness of emotions. It is his aptitude for hiding emotions under the mask of inapproachability and coldness that makes them finely ‘polished’ and expressive (there are many actors among representatives of this type, e.g. Vladimir Vyssotsky, Adriano Celentano). He is calm under any circumstances, but calm in a different manner. He remains cold and unapproachable when he loves, and does not hurry to trust feelings of his somewhat frivolous dual (The Psychologist). He is very jealous and mistrustful: he is horrified that his emotions will be ridiculed. In dangerous situations he stubbornly fears nothing, approaches the source of danger very calmly. This is his best move – to go directly towards the opponent, and the stronger one shall prevail. This is also the main pose of the actor Jean Gabin—impertinence, non-compliance, internal correctness and courage. The more lonely he is, the more unapproachable.

4. Goals and methods. Sometimes he may be mistaken for a lazybones and a chatterbox, especially when being without his dual for long: he speaks a lot but does nothing, as if waiting for something. In such a situation he is really waiting: for a scream for help. He will not work without a goal, and is not capable of inventing goals himself. Only The Psychologist, the ardent enthusiast, has a key, which starts up the precise and flawless mechanism of The Craftsman. As a reward The Craftsman considers the joy he has brought by his labor. He judges about sincerity of others by voice inflection, which automatically mobilizes him. Both desire and joy are often best expressed by his dual – The Psychologist – who is in addition a great specialist of finding talents and admiring them sincerely. And The Craftsman has to be a favorite, for he does not tolerate equal rewarding regardless of contribution. Only sincere feelings expressed by the eyes and intonations can win him over.

Your dual (psychologically complementary type): Tom Sawyer, The Psychologist (intuitive-ethical extravert).

Also close to me.

Forer anyone?

 

[Jeremy8419]

Is this something you made that you're looking for feedback on?

 

[Norrsken]

Is this something you made that you're looking for feedback on?

Nope, I found it randomly online.

 

[Jeremy8419]

Nope, I found it randomly online.

Ah, okay. Well, this isn't the worst test that I have seen, but it isn't determining Socionics TIM; it's determining the primary element you are using. People may primarily operate through any element in their TIM for ages on end, but determining such element has no bearing on determining which function the determined element actually resides in, so that the TIM itself can be determined.

Although there are four dimensions shown on Model A, there is an added dimension that determines where within the model the individual currently is. This is somewhat similar to the Neuroticism dimension within Big Five. For a most basic example, if one gives all indication of being a Se Leading type, because his psyche seems so based on such, but the individual is in a highly stressed or depressed state, then the individual is not operating out of the Ego, because the Ego is our healthiest and natural state in society; therefore, this individual who seems "sooooo completely and absolutely Se," is operating out of the Super-Ego or Super-Id, and is thus an Intuitive Ego.

From my personal experiences, my Duals operate all over the various types and for ages on end. The ones who actually operate in their Ego, and even give any indication of being my dual or even in my own Quadra, are typically those in a long-term healthy relationship. The only real "give away" that I have encountered is the Suggestive Function, which the Dual supposedly cannot resist. For example, the old Counselor-esque questions of "Well, how do you think that makes this person feel that you did X," "does Y really seem like a good way to be treating me," etc. makes them pull 180's every time. Myself on the other hand, often find myself neck deep in a buttload of work thinking, "wtf? How'd I get here? Why am I doing all this crud again?"

 

[Norrsken]

Ah, okay. Well, this isn't the worst test that I have seen, but it isn't determining Socionics TIM; it's determining the primary element you are using. People may primarily operate through any element in their TIM for ages on end, but determining such element has no bearing on determining which function the determined element actually resides in, so that the TIM itself can be determined.

Although there are four dimensions shown on Model A, there is an added dimension that determines where within the model the individual currently is. This is somewhat similar to the Neuroticism dimension within Big Five. For a most basic example, if one gives all indication of being a Se Leading type, because his psyche seems so based on such, but the individual is in a highly stressed or depressed state, then the individual is not operating out of the Ego, because the Ego is our healthiest and natural state in society; therefore, this individual who seems "sooooo completely and absolutely Se," is operating out of the Super-Ego or Super-Id, and is thus an Intuitive Ego.

From my personal experiences, my Duals operate all over the various types and for ages on end. The ones who actually operate in their Ego, and even give any indication of being my dual or even in my own Quadra, are typically those in a long-term healthy relationship. The only real "give away" that I have encountered is the Suggestive Function, which the Dual supposedly cannot resist. For example, the old Counselor-esque questions of "Well, how do you think that makes this person feel that you did X," "does Y really seem like a good way to be treating me," etc. makes them pull 180's every time. Myself on the other hand, often find myself neck deep in a buttload of work thinking, "wtf? How'd I get here? Why am I doing all this crud again?"

Thank you for that explanation; it is still a hard thing for me to grasp, the Ego part, I mean.
I also think that socionics can be quite a confusing mess in of itself, so tests are also bound to make people even more confused sometimes.

 

[Jeremy8419]

Thank you for that explanation; it is still a hard thing for me to grasp, the Ego part, I mean.
I also think that socionics can be quite a confusing mess in of itself, so tests are also bound to make people even more confused sometimes.

Does this help?

 

[Norrsken]

Does this help?

To be honest...

 

[Jeremy8419]

To be honest...

How about this... People may operate under sub-routines for long periods of time before operating at the primary routine.

 

[Puffypolma]

Irrational-INFp

 

[Bush]

ENFp, which actually isn't out of the running

Choosing option 2.1 rather than 2.2 leads me to ENTj. INTp mentions 'skepticism' and 'pedantry' which are things that largely make me want to stab myself

 

[Jeremy8419]

I didn't go over the test with a fine-toothed comb or anything, but I should point out that it does have some translation errors or something. For one, on my own option path, it said "humanitarian activities" but then in quotes said something like "art and music." Seems they confused Humanitarian with Liberal Arts.