valaki
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- Jan 1, 2014
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- MBTI Type
- SeNi
- Enneagram
- 8+7
- Instinctual Variant
- sx/sp
Firstly, thanks for any help!
I'm going to go by MBTI official site, check myself against points of the short function definitions from there, just for the heck of it.
If you think that site sucks then do please offer a good JCF alternative. Do ask questions too to clarify function preferences / positions. I will say, I'm pretty sure on Se/Ni > Ne/Si. Not the rest, so I'm open to everything!
Let me know what your impression of my type is.
Extraverted Sensing: Acts on concrete data from here and now. Trusts the present, then lets it go. --> That works for me, though quite honestly it seems to me this is something the average person does a lot. Though, the second sentence "trust the present, then lets it go", may actually not be as trivial as I thought, hearing people talk about how to find this mindset. That's just strange to me, because, how do you do things in the present if your mind is wandering elsewhere? OK, apparently some people can function this way but I don't do it this way for sure. Mentally or physically I'm not incapable of thinking of something else while doing something but it's not my default and I don't like not being present if I'm doing something.
Introverted Sensing: Compares present facts and experiences to past experience. Trusts the past. Stores sensory data for future use. --> Foreign to me. If I'm here, then I'm here, I have no past and I don't need a past. I can go to such an extreme with this, if I'm asked what happened today, I will say nothing happened, simply because it's the past
Extraverted Intuition: Sees possibilities in the external world. Trusts flashes from the unconscious, which can then be shared with others. --> Some of that also works for me, the flashes from unconscious, sharing it sometimes with others, though by the time I would share, it doesn't seem so great an insight or it's hard to explain. I don't really otherwise analyse the external world in terms of possibilities. Otoh, I really do most of my insight generating stuff when talking to others or when reading certain stuff. Not when I'm just around living daily life.
Introverted Intuition: Looks at consistency of ideas and thoughts with an internal framework. Trusts flashes from the unconscious, which may be hard for others to understand. --> Maybe this is the kind of "unconscious flashes" I have yeah. Also, I have a very strong tendency to keep looking at such consistency. I can process lots of details while I keep looking for this on an unconscious level.
Extraverted Thinking: Seeks logic and consistency in the outside world. Concern for external laws and rules. --> I guess I can do this. Though, external laws... as long as they don't get in my way I can look quite irrational with not considering such things at times when others would. I can think too quickly too and that leaves me no time to consider these laws and rules in certain situations.
Introverted Thinking: Seeks internal consistency and logic of ideas. Trusts his or her internal framework, which may be difficult to explain to others. --> Quite honestly, I am not sure if I'm mixing this with Ni Or if I just do both.
Extraverted Feeling: Seeks harmony with and between people in the outside world. Interpersonal and cultural values are important. --> Sometimes I am really bad at doing the harmony thing I just feel like inciting conflict instead and will actually do so. (This may not be MBTI related.) Then sometimes it seems I'm really good with paying attention to the interpersonal harmony! It's so mood dependent for me.
Introverted Feeling: Seeks harmony of action and thoughts with personal values. May not always articulate those values. --> I certainly don't articulate such values. But I also don't think I try to find harmony in this way. No, definitely not something I can do well at all. On a conscious level, this is totally foreign to me.
A few lines copied from Enneagram thread, might be relevant to type:
OK a bit more info on me. I usually find myself doing two kinds of activities, either just being involved with whatever I enjoy doing atm or I'm doing something to get/acquire something/object/goal/challenge. I enjoy both.
I do the former because otherwise I would be bored, I do the latter because challenges make me feel alive and/or because I just want to have the whatever thing. I like focused tunnel vision, I can be acting pretty controlled then. Both ways of living can be pretty impulsive otherwise.
The "involved mode", it often includes talking to people, this is just for the interaction itself. I can spend a lot of time on this, too much time. The "challenge/get stuff" mode, that usually doesn't involve people much, at best they are objects in the way. Well or objects to interact with for a reason. I can be a real loner.
If I'm not involved and I'm not into challenge and/or into getting something, I guess it's just a pretty low energy mode, I'll just stare outside my head looking at stuff, perhaps have some thoughts here and there, no continuously flowing train of thought though. I can enjoy looking at stuff for a short time, otherwise this isn't my preferred way of being.
Hmm I also have a "wandering" instinctual mode where I go around, usually alone. Yep again being a loner with that. (If there was someone else with me, they'd have to be following me, not the other way around.) I enjoy this, so list it with preferred ways.
I guess most things about me fit into these categories.
...On second thought, I could add more, but I don't want to make this too long for now. :/
Well OK that's it for now, Socionics I will do if there's even anyone who analyses socionics types here... Let me know!
I'm going to go by MBTI official site, check myself against points of the short function definitions from there, just for the heck of it.
If you think that site sucks then do please offer a good JCF alternative. Do ask questions too to clarify function preferences / positions. I will say, I'm pretty sure on Se/Ni > Ne/Si. Not the rest, so I'm open to everything!
Let me know what your impression of my type is.
Extraverted Sensing: Acts on concrete data from here and now. Trusts the present, then lets it go. --> That works for me, though quite honestly it seems to me this is something the average person does a lot. Though, the second sentence "trust the present, then lets it go", may actually not be as trivial as I thought, hearing people talk about how to find this mindset. That's just strange to me, because, how do you do things in the present if your mind is wandering elsewhere? OK, apparently some people can function this way but I don't do it this way for sure. Mentally or physically I'm not incapable of thinking of something else while doing something but it's not my default and I don't like not being present if I'm doing something.
Introverted Sensing: Compares present facts and experiences to past experience. Trusts the past. Stores sensory data for future use. --> Foreign to me. If I'm here, then I'm here, I have no past and I don't need a past. I can go to such an extreme with this, if I'm asked what happened today, I will say nothing happened, simply because it's the past
Extraverted Intuition: Sees possibilities in the external world. Trusts flashes from the unconscious, which can then be shared with others. --> Some of that also works for me, the flashes from unconscious, sharing it sometimes with others, though by the time I would share, it doesn't seem so great an insight or it's hard to explain. I don't really otherwise analyse the external world in terms of possibilities. Otoh, I really do most of my insight generating stuff when talking to others or when reading certain stuff. Not when I'm just around living daily life.
Introverted Intuition: Looks at consistency of ideas and thoughts with an internal framework. Trusts flashes from the unconscious, which may be hard for others to understand. --> Maybe this is the kind of "unconscious flashes" I have yeah. Also, I have a very strong tendency to keep looking at such consistency. I can process lots of details while I keep looking for this on an unconscious level.
Extraverted Thinking: Seeks logic and consistency in the outside world. Concern for external laws and rules. --> I guess I can do this. Though, external laws... as long as they don't get in my way I can look quite irrational with not considering such things at times when others would. I can think too quickly too and that leaves me no time to consider these laws and rules in certain situations.
Introverted Thinking: Seeks internal consistency and logic of ideas. Trusts his or her internal framework, which may be difficult to explain to others. --> Quite honestly, I am not sure if I'm mixing this with Ni Or if I just do both.
Extraverted Feeling: Seeks harmony with and between people in the outside world. Interpersonal and cultural values are important. --> Sometimes I am really bad at doing the harmony thing I just feel like inciting conflict instead and will actually do so. (This may not be MBTI related.) Then sometimes it seems I'm really good with paying attention to the interpersonal harmony! It's so mood dependent for me.
Introverted Feeling: Seeks harmony of action and thoughts with personal values. May not always articulate those values. --> I certainly don't articulate such values. But I also don't think I try to find harmony in this way. No, definitely not something I can do well at all. On a conscious level, this is totally foreign to me.
A few lines copied from Enneagram thread, might be relevant to type:
OK a bit more info on me. I usually find myself doing two kinds of activities, either just being involved with whatever I enjoy doing atm or I'm doing something to get/acquire something/object/goal/challenge. I enjoy both.
I do the former because otherwise I would be bored, I do the latter because challenges make me feel alive and/or because I just want to have the whatever thing. I like focused tunnel vision, I can be acting pretty controlled then. Both ways of living can be pretty impulsive otherwise.
The "involved mode", it often includes talking to people, this is just for the interaction itself. I can spend a lot of time on this, too much time. The "challenge/get stuff" mode, that usually doesn't involve people much, at best they are objects in the way. Well or objects to interact with for a reason. I can be a real loner.
If I'm not involved and I'm not into challenge and/or into getting something, I guess it's just a pretty low energy mode, I'll just stare outside my head looking at stuff, perhaps have some thoughts here and there, no continuously flowing train of thought though. I can enjoy looking at stuff for a short time, otherwise this isn't my preferred way of being.
Hmm I also have a "wandering" instinctual mode where I go around, usually alone. Yep again being a loner with that. (If there was someone else with me, they'd have to be following me, not the other way around.) I enjoy this, so list it with preferred ways.
I guess most things about me fit into these categories.
...On second thought, I could add more, but I don't want to make this too long for now. :/
Well OK that's it for now, Socionics I will do if there's even anyone who analyses socionics types here... Let me know!