Kensei
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- sx
This is what one would usually find in S/N descriptions
Ns-innovative, big picture thinking, future oriented, imaginative.
Ss- practical, detailed, here and now, realistic.
So basically this is saying that sensors are boring, uncreative stuffies and that intuitives are the only ones that invent and change, and this is what causes much confusion among actual sensing types.
Here's what I think the real gist behind these traits are based on all the research I've done( I will not give links, so if you ask, you are probably N biased)
Innovative vs practical: by this trait opposition, they are talking about creating from scratch vs tweaking. Intutives prefer their inventions to be from scratch, seeing that as a more interesting place to start. Sensing types will often be drained by the abstract thinking that requires from scratch inventions. This does not mean sensors aren't creative, and yes they do use tried and true methods, but when they use these preinvented methods, they are more often tweaking or editing these tried and true methods and coming up with a whole new method through experimentations. So yes, intuitives invent, but sensors do too, just by using a tangible concrete base.
Big picture vs details: this is what makes intuitives look like the people that see beyond the present data and sensors just superficial dicks. Sensors see beyond information, they will just be focused on the near future rather than the overall vision. Think of the strategist and the hero. The hero will focus on one task, like blowing up the main villian's castle to stop the invasion of the good castle. The strategist will be more focused on the overall vision of bringing good to the land and will work in leaps going wherever their inspiration takes them rather than completing one individual task at a time like the hero would.
Future vs here and now: again, another thing assuming that intuitives see ahead and sensors are braindead when it comes to anything but the facts. Future oriented just means the person lives in the far future attending the needs of their future visions while the sensor lives in the present, attending to what needs to be done currently. Not that intuitives don't attend to present needs, but they will work best when focusing on the future. Eg. A sensor will stock up food to prepare for a battle after hearig the news of invasion. An inutuitive will stock up food to prepare for an anticipated invasion a week from now. Basically a sensor attends to what is known and an intuitive attends to what is anticipated if there isn't a known problem at hand.
Imaginative vs realistic: this is the one thing that crushes anyone's thoughts on identifying as a sensor, the fact that sensors have no imagination. Everyone has an imagination. Without imagination, there is no brain function when it comes to anything besides reality. Sensors have what is called a concrete imagination. Their imagination will be stimulated by something real rather than being stimulated by a concept. Eg. A sensor will imagine what it would be like to date a girl and adventure with her after observing her with his senses. An intuitive will be more apt the imagine soaring through space after discussing concepts in physics. It all depends on what triggers your imagination, leaving the definition of imaginative in mbti being one who imagines things rooted from that which cannot be perceived by
the senses.
Hope you liked my insights, and I reaize that I may be wrong, but if ypu believe me to be wrong please explain to me how I am wrong using logical non-type bias points. I will be open to any corrections. Also I hope that sensors that have been confused will finally understand themselves deeply after reading this. Thanks.
Ns-innovative, big picture thinking, future oriented, imaginative.
Ss- practical, detailed, here and now, realistic.
So basically this is saying that sensors are boring, uncreative stuffies and that intuitives are the only ones that invent and change, and this is what causes much confusion among actual sensing types.
Here's what I think the real gist behind these traits are based on all the research I've done( I will not give links, so if you ask, you are probably N biased)
Innovative vs practical: by this trait opposition, they are talking about creating from scratch vs tweaking. Intutives prefer their inventions to be from scratch, seeing that as a more interesting place to start. Sensing types will often be drained by the abstract thinking that requires from scratch inventions. This does not mean sensors aren't creative, and yes they do use tried and true methods, but when they use these preinvented methods, they are more often tweaking or editing these tried and true methods and coming up with a whole new method through experimentations. So yes, intuitives invent, but sensors do too, just by using a tangible concrete base.
Big picture vs details: this is what makes intuitives look like the people that see beyond the present data and sensors just superficial dicks. Sensors see beyond information, they will just be focused on the near future rather than the overall vision. Think of the strategist and the hero. The hero will focus on one task, like blowing up the main villian's castle to stop the invasion of the good castle. The strategist will be more focused on the overall vision of bringing good to the land and will work in leaps going wherever their inspiration takes them rather than completing one individual task at a time like the hero would.
Future vs here and now: again, another thing assuming that intuitives see ahead and sensors are braindead when it comes to anything but the facts. Future oriented just means the person lives in the far future attending the needs of their future visions while the sensor lives in the present, attending to what needs to be done currently. Not that intuitives don't attend to present needs, but they will work best when focusing on the future. Eg. A sensor will stock up food to prepare for a battle after hearig the news of invasion. An inutuitive will stock up food to prepare for an anticipated invasion a week from now. Basically a sensor attends to what is known and an intuitive attends to what is anticipated if there isn't a known problem at hand.
Imaginative vs realistic: this is the one thing that crushes anyone's thoughts on identifying as a sensor, the fact that sensors have no imagination. Everyone has an imagination. Without imagination, there is no brain function when it comes to anything besides reality. Sensors have what is called a concrete imagination. Their imagination will be stimulated by something real rather than being stimulated by a concept. Eg. A sensor will imagine what it would be like to date a girl and adventure with her after observing her with his senses. An intuitive will be more apt the imagine soaring through space after discussing concepts in physics. It all depends on what triggers your imagination, leaving the definition of imaginative in mbti being one who imagines things rooted from that which cannot be perceived by
the senses.
Hope you liked my insights, and I reaize that I may be wrong, but if ypu believe me to be wrong please explain to me how I am wrong using logical non-type bias points. I will be open to any corrections. Also I hope that sensors that have been confused will finally understand themselves deeply after reading this. Thanks.