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Freedom is a very controversial thing.
It is used in all kinds of arguments, in all kinds of sentences, with all kinds of meanings.
People go to war for freedom. Actually both sides/countries/alliances in the war say they fight for 'some kind of' freedom.
Politicians talk about freedom.
Priests talk about freedom.
Everybody talks about it.
Either if it's a form or government, money, some kind of emancipation, etc.
This word is full of meaning. Full of inspiration. It is so full of meaning that you can bullshit people by using it.
The most common myth about freedom is that money=freedom. It's a very common belief.
That's why people sacrifice their actual freedom, for the illusion of freedom.
Somebody said to me once that, people in the US are free, because they have money.
How is that freedom, if money is just consumption fuel, you need to refuel, you will always need to refuel. So what they have more stuff...that's freedom?!
But what is freedom without money? Can you be free if you're broke?
What'cha gonna do?! Play chess in the park all summer?
Not having money means that you ain't going anywhere, you're stuck where you are, in your city, in it's gray buildings with no colors in your horizon.
So money actually has something to do with being relatively free, but money does not equal freedom.
I live in a former communist country, so...the folks in the west might say...hey you're free now!!!!!!
Free to do what? Free to go where? Free of what?
Freedom is one of those things with many versions. Every person generate a mental version of it. With so many variations.
I rarely feel free. It seems like 'absolute' freedom is impossibly to accomplish, as I am in a system, in which you either obey, or are an outcast. I must fuel this rusty corrupted system, because everyone is doing it!!!!
For me freedom is bullshit. I never felt free, and I don't think I will ever feel otherwise in the near future.
Freedom is a cliche image of someone running in a field, in a sunny day, with his hands up in the air, excited, enthusiastic, of the beauty of things.
We're all drops of water, racing towards the ocean, fixed in our course, in gravity's captivity. Drops which think the ocean will set them free, but not even the ocean can escape gravity can't it?
But hey...let's think positive!!!!
How would I improve the world (I know) so that it's people are actually more free.
1. Equal possibilities.
Now that's a good step towards freedom. But from what I see, the idea of equal possibilities rarely applies where I am living.
Each and every person in the whole fu**ing world must have possibilities.
Or at least theoretically.
2. Fuck consumerism.
Honestly. Every person I know has a loan in the bank, which takes more that 50% of their monthly income.
Why? So they can buy shit. As if the new shiny things make them happy. It's not like you f**k the shit you buy. No, you just use it. And can live without it.
Working + Buying stuff does not lead to much evolution. It leads to more work and more consumption. Till the whole thing will collapse.
Evolution is more like a hobby of society.
New values are required to replace the obsolete ones.
3. Education.
School is crap. At least where I come from. You learn things, you relearn things, and the better you are at learning, the more As (10s) you get.
I'm not good at learning things that don't interest me. And I usually remember the essential, not the whole f***ing thing, what good comes from knowing the entire thing.
School must encourage independent thinking, people reaching their own conclusions, making a little effort in discovering for themselves the meaning of poems, not reading repeatedly an essay made by some guy, and remembering it.
People must discover their inner values, who are they to tell me what to think.
Mental independence. But that doesn't come very handy in wars does it?
You need mobs, dressed similarly, from the time they're born, till the moment they die.
Wearing school uniforms, wearing business uniforms, stripping people of their inner self.
4. Science. Yes science.
We need science. We need to know more. Why should we stop here.
It happens so fast, things change so fast, from a computer the size of a room, to mini laptops, to whatever.
We need to discover more!
5. Art.
I love art. Any kind of art.
But most people with an inclination to art, where I come from become accountants or stuff like that.
Why?
Because very little (no) money comes out of art!!!
We're back to the money. You don't wanna end up half starved on the streets, writing poems to people you meet for about 1$. So you become an accountant.
For financial security. And total, irreversible boredom.
I say fuck that!!! We need art! We need creative people! We need beauty, in a world with so many rules and regulations.
They need some kind of reward for what they're doing. From society.
6. Changing the system. Whatever that means. I'm not saying that we need some perfect magic world. I just want a world with less corruption, a different world, in which people are not OWNED by other people.
But enough about what I think.
What would you change in the world, for the sake of freedom?
It is used in all kinds of arguments, in all kinds of sentences, with all kinds of meanings.
People go to war for freedom. Actually both sides/countries/alliances in the war say they fight for 'some kind of' freedom.
Politicians talk about freedom.
Priests talk about freedom.
Everybody talks about it.
Either if it's a form or government, money, some kind of emancipation, etc.
This word is full of meaning. Full of inspiration. It is so full of meaning that you can bullshit people by using it.
The most common myth about freedom is that money=freedom. It's a very common belief.
That's why people sacrifice their actual freedom, for the illusion of freedom.
Somebody said to me once that, people in the US are free, because they have money.
How is that freedom, if money is just consumption fuel, you need to refuel, you will always need to refuel. So what they have more stuff...that's freedom?!
But what is freedom without money? Can you be free if you're broke?
What'cha gonna do?! Play chess in the park all summer?
Not having money means that you ain't going anywhere, you're stuck where you are, in your city, in it's gray buildings with no colors in your horizon.
So money actually has something to do with being relatively free, but money does not equal freedom.
I live in a former communist country, so...the folks in the west might say...hey you're free now!!!!!!
Free to do what? Free to go where? Free of what?
Freedom is one of those things with many versions. Every person generate a mental version of it. With so many variations.
I rarely feel free. It seems like 'absolute' freedom is impossibly to accomplish, as I am in a system, in which you either obey, or are an outcast. I must fuel this rusty corrupted system, because everyone is doing it!!!!
For me freedom is bullshit. I never felt free, and I don't think I will ever feel otherwise in the near future.
Freedom is a cliche image of someone running in a field, in a sunny day, with his hands up in the air, excited, enthusiastic, of the beauty of things.
We're all drops of water, racing towards the ocean, fixed in our course, in gravity's captivity. Drops which think the ocean will set them free, but not even the ocean can escape gravity can't it?
But hey...let's think positive!!!!
How would I improve the world (I know) so that it's people are actually more free.
1. Equal possibilities.
Now that's a good step towards freedom. But from what I see, the idea of equal possibilities rarely applies where I am living.
Each and every person in the whole fu**ing world must have possibilities.
Or at least theoretically.
2. Fuck consumerism.
Honestly. Every person I know has a loan in the bank, which takes more that 50% of their monthly income.
Why? So they can buy shit. As if the new shiny things make them happy. It's not like you f**k the shit you buy. No, you just use it. And can live without it.
Working + Buying stuff does not lead to much evolution. It leads to more work and more consumption. Till the whole thing will collapse.
Evolution is more like a hobby of society.
New values are required to replace the obsolete ones.
3. Education.
School is crap. At least where I come from. You learn things, you relearn things, and the better you are at learning, the more As (10s) you get.
I'm not good at learning things that don't interest me. And I usually remember the essential, not the whole f***ing thing, what good comes from knowing the entire thing.
School must encourage independent thinking, people reaching their own conclusions, making a little effort in discovering for themselves the meaning of poems, not reading repeatedly an essay made by some guy, and remembering it.
People must discover their inner values, who are they to tell me what to think.
Mental independence. But that doesn't come very handy in wars does it?
You need mobs, dressed similarly, from the time they're born, till the moment they die.
Wearing school uniforms, wearing business uniforms, stripping people of their inner self.
4. Science. Yes science.
We need science. We need to know more. Why should we stop here.
It happens so fast, things change so fast, from a computer the size of a room, to mini laptops, to whatever.
We need to discover more!
5. Art.
I love art. Any kind of art.
But most people with an inclination to art, where I come from become accountants or stuff like that.
Why?
Because very little (no) money comes out of art!!!
We're back to the money. You don't wanna end up half starved on the streets, writing poems to people you meet for about 1$. So you become an accountant.
For financial security. And total, irreversible boredom.
I say fuck that!!! We need art! We need creative people! We need beauty, in a world with so many rules and regulations.
They need some kind of reward for what they're doing. From society.
6. Changing the system. Whatever that means. I'm not saying that we need some perfect magic world. I just want a world with less corruption, a different world, in which people are not OWNED by other people.
But enough about what I think.
What would you change in the world, for the sake of freedom?