Hawthorne
corona
- Joined
- Jan 8, 2015
- Messages
- 1,946
- MBTI Type
- INTP
- Enneagram
- 5w4
- Instinctual Variant
- so/sp
I get the impression that Socionics types and MBTI types don't always match up. I'm guessing this has to do with differing definitions for the functions/information elements? Is there a standard POV about whether they should and the consequences of them not doing so?
Secondarily, I'd like some insight into my own socionics type. I'd like to use it as a starting point for my own research into this system. I answered this questionnaire through the blood and tears caused by the pain of having to do yet another questionnaire.
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Personal concepts
1. What is beauty? What is love?
I don't have strong opinions on either of these concepts. Beauty is whatever pleases the individual. Love has too much social baggage to bother trying to define. Regardless, I'm sure it's also dependent on the individual.
2. What are your most important values?
Try to live life to the fullest. Getting stuck in the muck prohibits that. Keep looking forward. Keep moving forward. Break enough things to keep it interesting but not cause too many problems.
3. Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?
Nope. At the moment, I'm at peace with the absurdity of my existence and feel no reason to leap away from it.
4. Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?
No opinion on war and the military. Probably inefficient and I'm sure there are some human rights violations but I'm not equipped with the background knowledge to form a strong opinion, let alone lobby for it.
Ideally, power would be complete control over one's destiny. Unfortunately, that answer probably slingshots into an epistemological discussion I'm not fully prepared to have.
Interests
5. What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?
My longest conversations are with other people about themselves. My interests are other people. I enjoy the process of learning them.
6. Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?
Yes because it's my career path. I focus on my body to the extent that I want to feel and look good and engage in behaviors that facilitate that.
7. What do you think of daily chores?
Often boring but often necessary. The optimal place is somewhere between order and chaos, not at the extremes.
8. Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.
The last book I remember enjoying was "The Antidote". It's partially a deconstruction of the "positive thinking" self-help movement and partially a memoir of the author's own self-help journey. I was interested in its analysis of blind optimism: its effects on people's reasoning, and the discussion on why some are more likely to endorse it than others.
The last film I liked...was probably "The Flight". About an irresponsible, alcoholic, drug-using pilot who miraculously lands a commercial plane. He becomes hero and then a toxicology
report happens. I like stories where the hero and the villian are often the same person.
9. What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?
Frustration for the first. Surprise for the second. I really, really dislike disappointment (both causing and being caused).
The second is harder to explain. I'd say that 90% of the time, I'm stuck in a state of boredom. I feel sluggish and only half awake. The other 10% of the time, something unexpected enough happens that "wakes me up" and makes me excited and I really like that feeling.
10. Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?
I don't have an answer for this. Not a solid one, anyway.
Evaluation & Behaviour
11. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?
I don't keep in touch well. I'm not very approachable at first. When I'm in bad moods I can be unneccesarily cruel. I dislike all of those things as well.
12. What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?
I don't hold on to baggage. I have a "live and let live" outlook. I believe that I have the capacity to be very loyal and affectionate but just haven't found anyone or anything worth the investment.
13. In what areas of your life would you like help?
More willpower and discipline.
14. Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.
Turning inwards. It slows me down and makes me careless. Dark spiral. Eventually I get sick of myself, forcefully shut down those thoughts, and focus on other things for a little while.
People & Interactions
15. What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?
I enjoy people who play with their dark. I enjoy people who dance to their own drum. I like being invited to dance along with them.
I dislike people who overvalue themselves and their opinions.
I get along with most people. At first, anyway.
16. How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?
Over romanticized (har). Someone who wants to be learned and who wants to learn me.
17. If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?
I don't like children but to play along, the values I'd choose to pygamilion into them would be independence, a fondness for self-learning, and the strategic use of tact and honesty. I'd do my best not to tell them what to think. I'd also try to avoid feeding them white lies to shield them from a harsh truth. I think children are more resilent than we give them credit for.
18. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?
Inwardly...I don't know? I'd probably recoil a little bit? I'm sure I'd feel disappointed but whether or not I grudge-judge them for it would depend on what exactly they said and their reasons for believing it. I'd probably ask them a couple of "innocent" questions before making that decision.
19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.
I don't pay attention. I have a negative opinion of the mindsets that tend to develop within groups and the behaviors that become permissable because of them. I'm extremely sensitive to that for some reason. I consider the source of all social problems to be selfishness. On some level it disgusts me but I also recognize the hypocrisy of that disgust.
20. How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?
How they react to what I share. If I like it, I'll thaw more. If I don't, I'll distance.
21. How do you behave around strangers?
I ignore them unless I find them interesting or it's important for me not to.
Secondarily, I'd like some insight into my own socionics type. I'd like to use it as a starting point for my own research into this system. I answered this questionnaire through the blood and tears caused by the pain of having to do yet another questionnaire.
.
.
.
Personal concepts
1. What is beauty? What is love?
I don't have strong opinions on either of these concepts. Beauty is whatever pleases the individual. Love has too much social baggage to bother trying to define. Regardless, I'm sure it's also dependent on the individual.
2. What are your most important values?
Try to live life to the fullest. Getting stuck in the muck prohibits that. Keep looking forward. Keep moving forward. Break enough things to keep it interesting but not cause too many problems.
3. Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?
Nope. At the moment, I'm at peace with the absurdity of my existence and feel no reason to leap away from it.
4. Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?
No opinion on war and the military. Probably inefficient and I'm sure there are some human rights violations but I'm not equipped with the background knowledge to form a strong opinion, let alone lobby for it.
Ideally, power would be complete control over one's destiny. Unfortunately, that answer probably slingshots into an epistemological discussion I'm not fully prepared to have.
Interests
5. What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?
My longest conversations are with other people about themselves. My interests are other people. I enjoy the process of learning them.
6. Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?
Yes because it's my career path. I focus on my body to the extent that I want to feel and look good and engage in behaviors that facilitate that.
7. What do you think of daily chores?
Often boring but often necessary. The optimal place is somewhere between order and chaos, not at the extremes.
8. Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.
The last book I remember enjoying was "The Antidote". It's partially a deconstruction of the "positive thinking" self-help movement and partially a memoir of the author's own self-help journey. I was interested in its analysis of blind optimism: its effects on people's reasoning, and the discussion on why some are more likely to endorse it than others.
The last film I liked...was probably "The Flight". About an irresponsible, alcoholic, drug-using pilot who miraculously lands a commercial plane. He becomes hero and then a toxicology
report happens. I like stories where the hero and the villian are often the same person.
9. What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?
Frustration for the first. Surprise for the second. I really, really dislike disappointment (both causing and being caused).
The second is harder to explain. I'd say that 90% of the time, I'm stuck in a state of boredom. I feel sluggish and only half awake. The other 10% of the time, something unexpected enough happens that "wakes me up" and makes me excited and I really like that feeling.
10. Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?
I don't have an answer for this. Not a solid one, anyway.
Evaluation & Behaviour
11. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?
I don't keep in touch well. I'm not very approachable at first. When I'm in bad moods I can be unneccesarily cruel. I dislike all of those things as well.
12. What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?
I don't hold on to baggage. I have a "live and let live" outlook. I believe that I have the capacity to be very loyal and affectionate but just haven't found anyone or anything worth the investment.
13. In what areas of your life would you like help?
More willpower and discipline.
14. Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.
Turning inwards. It slows me down and makes me careless. Dark spiral. Eventually I get sick of myself, forcefully shut down those thoughts, and focus on other things for a little while.
People & Interactions
15. What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?
I enjoy people who play with their dark. I enjoy people who dance to their own drum. I like being invited to dance along with them.
I dislike people who overvalue themselves and their opinions.
I get along with most people. At first, anyway.
16. How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?
Over romanticized (har). Someone who wants to be learned and who wants to learn me.
17. If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?
I don't like children but to play along, the values I'd choose to pygamilion into them would be independence, a fondness for self-learning, and the strategic use of tact and honesty. I'd do my best not to tell them what to think. I'd also try to avoid feeding them white lies to shield them from a harsh truth. I think children are more resilent than we give them credit for.
18. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?
Inwardly...I don't know? I'd probably recoil a little bit? I'm sure I'd feel disappointed but whether or not I grudge-judge them for it would depend on what exactly they said and their reasons for believing it. I'd probably ask them a couple of "innocent" questions before making that decision.
19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.
I don't pay attention. I have a negative opinion of the mindsets that tend to develop within groups and the behaviors that become permissable because of them. I'm extremely sensitive to that for some reason. I consider the source of all social problems to be selfishness. On some level it disgusts me but I also recognize the hypocrisy of that disgust.
20. How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?
How they react to what I share. If I like it, I'll thaw more. If I don't, I'll distance.
21. How do you behave around strangers?
I ignore them unless I find them interesting or it's important for me not to.