I dare not hope Morrissey is INFJ being that I can't be sure I'm not falling into the trap of wanting to claim someone I admire as my own type. That said, I really do think he is INFJ. He is so direct and bracing in his communication style and is also a control freak.
I suspect Robert Smith is INFP.
this is exactly what i'm saying. same with leonard cohen (crosses fingers)!
Stipe has to be infj. Just too blunt to be infp.
Thom Yorke is an intp. There are several youtube interviews that have him uncorking his explosive Fe on the person interviewing him.
what do you mean by too blunt? do you too perceive of infjs as being more self-righteous, to assert their ideals more aggressively than infps? i think this might be true, i just need another nudge to see it in the open.
thom broke down, lost his mind, couldn't take the pressure of everyone's eyes. listen to pablo honey, songs like stop whispering, thinking about you, you, etc. they sound like bad u2 songs, but soooo personal. same with the bends. then he broke down during ok computer a la billy corgan on siamese dream, and after the breakdown never released a personal intimate immediate work again. always the distance. radiohead makes up for it in sheer talent, Ti ability as a band, Se, and all of the design team they have perfecting the product (even the packaging!). but he seems like an unhealthy inf for sure to me. "meeting people is easy." true love waits sounds like an infj song to me, as does talk show host, street spirit, and planet telex. fake plastic trees and ok computer maybe too. actually today i'm back in the unhealthy infj camp, tho fake plastic trees to me SEEMS like Ne, as does paranoid android, etc, but it's really difficult to tell. the lyrics always have a coherency to them, karma police, my iron lung is so unhealthy inf, just- i'm not sure, high and dry seems infj. he seems like he has strong Ti to me, he very easily could be a really unhealthy Fe type (poor guy). he can't keep the opinions and attitudes of others outside of his own skin. today i think infj. i think johnny greenberg is probably infp or isfp.
(Layne Staley -don't listen to him, though he has the look and sound,
Fiona Apple, from interviews, seems very entj because of her very commanding voice, but also quite lazy,
Prince -his energy is just too expansive to be anything else, screams Ni-Se but seems to lack boundaries to so much of a degree that his dominant has to be Te from my observations,
Josh Homme,
the singer from the Trail of Dead,
Martin Newell of the Cleaners from Venus, and others that I'll remember a little later.
layne staley seems i to me. the body of an overdosed extravert would be found before it had decomposed. he was way trapped in his own world. maybe isfp. and the prince characterization of isfp makes more sense than any other i've heard so far. i would have guessed fiona apple is an isfp too a la kirsten dunst. she seems introverted with Fi dom.
Not to say other types don't have their share of problems, but in support of my view that Cat Power is intp--I've known several primary Ti's to be alcoholoics. She is just very detached in movements, music, and thought. For example go to
YouTube - Cat Power interview on Much Music - at 2:45, Cat notes that [remember Beck?] when she writes music it just sort of "happening" when as she does. It just is. I think infps have to make their music much more personal to feed their Fi, whereas Cat seems to make music just because she can.
beck and cat power, as far as music just happening, just coming out- that seems way more infp to me than intp. intps deconstruct the shit out of everything. they plot, they arrange their ideas explicitly and articulate them over and over. it's exhausting and when they get the bug, they dive into it 100% without stopping. they keep writing, they get jacked up on speed, they cannot stop or sleep or eat bc they are working constantly. beck and cat power seem like the music comes out of Ne, they're feelings are strong and well-developed, songs come out easily bc they can project their feelings so powerfully even if the formal construction is hackneyed, boring, repetitive, etc. beck writes mutations and sea change, there's like two or three interesting compositions between the two records. but they're listenable bc of Fi. same with cat power, every cat power record may or may not be a covers record bc it doesn't even matter. it's her singing. (except the moon is a great great song).
more entjs:
Miles Davis (it'd make sense if his buddy John Coltrane were intp - gamma goobers)
David Bowie (calls himself a "pioneer" in music, scraping along at 57 -
YouTube - David Bowie interview, Parkinson, 2003, Part 1)
Andrew Lloyd Webber
bowie has got to be a p. his first function is Pe, i just don't know if he's an n or an s. i think he's a t tho for sure.
miles as an entj i could maybe see. i've read his autobiography and he struck me WAY more as an isfp. felt like bob dylan memoirs or john steinbeck travels with charley. he has the same understatement, simplicity, focus, etc, and he seems intent on leading quietly, directing the course of the music in an Fi kind of way to me. i don't know tho, he could be an istj or isfj for all i know. he always give people space to be themselves. coltrane i think has to be an infp. his conversion shit, a love supreme, i dunno let's keep this one going.
re: a love supreme, carlos santana also seems isfp to me, agree/disagree?
a few enfjs to throw out there:
the two main XTC guys - Andy and Colin
the two main Led Zeppelin guys
Paddy McAloon of Prefab Sprout
Sondre Lerche
Kate Bush
etc.
jimmy page and robert plant as enfjs? jimmy page HAS to be an introvert. plant could be an enfj, i would see that as a possibility. i personally hate him, he has a glory complex, the lyrics have some Ni to them, i think. jimmy page seems like he could be an isfp or an infp or an intp or an istp. i really have no idea. i'd guess t over f pretty strongly, without hearing him speak.
also, i thought kate bush seemed to be considered an infp? i would guess enfp/infp, with the best advice being that she seemed very introverted. her grandeur seems very Ne to me, not Ni.
When in doubt, use the process of elimination (regarding Leonard Cohen)
YouTube - Leonard Cohen Interview, 4/28/85 (Part 1)
^above is an infj on infj interview.
Moz is also infj, not a doubt about it. Fulfills the infj/intp combo myth, even, Marr as an intp.
i'll check out this interview. what is this infj/intp combo myth you speak o? i NEED to hear about it!
i often have trouble with infj/intp typing, i've seen writers like vladimir nabokov and my favorite writer donald barthelme seem very borderline. the Ti presence in some infjs is very strong and confuses matters, and Ni/Ne are very difficult in lyrical type expressions. Ni is highly contextual within your own interpretative framework/environment, but your framework/environment may be extremely weird and twisted. also, it is. i have similar problems with songwriters like stephin merritt, of the magnetic fields, today i think he's an infj instead of an intp. i'm settled on lou as a quintessential intp example, but also the elvis costellos, the andrew birds, the sufjan stevens, they could be an aloof withdrawn introverted excessively masked infj. cashmir pulaski day!