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MBTI Types and Political Ideologies

yeghor

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I'm not sure about that,
But Ni pursues its vision.

Si is about establishments out there in the world. Ni dreams things up.
My understanding is that Si-dom uphold the establishment/traditions whereas Ni-doms try to reform/optimize it from within, which sometimes may place them at odds with the establishment or status quo.
 

Pionart

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@yeghor

I wouldn't say they change it from within. That's more Si.

Ni really goes their own way and creates ventures that are new.

Would you say I am changing typology from within? I can see how that interpretation might work but I'm not so sure.
 

yeghor

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Cultured Type (High Conscientiousness, High Openness): Cultured Types are imaginative and resourceful in their thinking but conforming and traditional in their behavior. They use their intellectual skills to contribute to the common good. They may have a dignified, refined, and somewhat reserved air about them. Their perceptive and analytical abilities allow them to see through complex issues rapidly and accurately, allowing them to find quickly the most effective means of achieving desired ends. They are successful perfectionists, well suited for work that requires close concentration, self-control, and attention to detail. Others describe them as rule- abiding, persevering, learned, well-read, empathic, trustworthy, industrious, leaderlike, traditional, silent, and reserved.

Fanciful/Imaginative Type (Low Conscientiousness, High Openness): Fanciful/Imaginative Types are unconventional nonconformists who pride themselves on being different from others. They are not so much openly antisocial and disruptive in their behavior as they are fanciful, impractical, and unconcerned about the general welfare of others. They are described by others as complex, imaginative, and critical.

Conventional Type (High Conscientiousness, Low Openness): Conventional types are tradition-oriented persons who always "go by the book" rather than improvising, innovating, or thinking for themselves. They are quite responsible and can be relied on to follow directions and get the job done. They are described by others as agreeable, simple, and down-to-earth.

Immature Type (Low Conscientiousness, Low Openness): Immature Types have a history of problems with self-discipline and self-control. As young students they were likely to be restless and unable to concentrate in the classroom, and therefore performed poorly. As adults they are therefore regarded as rough and uncouth as well as impulsive. They like thrills, adventure and action and would find working behind a desk to be frustrating and boring. They are described by others as unorthodox, talkative, outgoing, rule-avoiding, quitting, unlearned, unlettered, self-centered, and unreliable.
Culture type sounds like NJs

Fanciful type sounds like NPs

Conventional type sounds like SJs

Immature type sounds like SPs

My chart's quadrants are not divided according to those categories though. The quadrants are divided according to Te, Fe, Fi and Ti, and include dominant and auxiliary types of each in their respective quadrant.
 

yeghor

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@yeghor

I wouldn't say they change it from within. That's more Si.

Ni really goes their own way and creates ventures that are new.

Would you say I am changing typology from within? I can see how that interpretation might work but I'm not so sure.
Those ventures need to be integrated into the system while keeping it intact/running. It's like doing a heart surgery.

I think one of us is not Ni-dom cause we seem to be on different wavelengths.
 

Pionart

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Those ventures need to be integrated into the system while keeping it intact/running. It's like doing a heart surgery.

I think one of us is not Ni-dom cause we seem to be on different wavelengths.
You're an ENFJ.

We're on different wavelengths for other reasons. Eg I'm good and you're evil, I'm a lot more advanced etc.

The integration comes from 8th function Si.
 

Pionart

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We're actually on very similar wavelengths given that we keep ending up in conversation.
 

yeghor

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Here's my take on political ideologies each MBTI type could be inclined towards.

I've made a slight revision to the political compass and MBTI correlation chart to indicate axis labels to further clarify why certain personalities lean towards certain political ideologies:

Vertical axis = Order/Collectivism/Authority and Chaos/Individualism/Anarchy
Horizontal axis = Left/Feminine and Right/Masculine

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Here's my take on political ideologies each MBTI type could be inclined towards.


1) The underlay showing ideologies is not mine, do not know where the original came from but a copy can be accessed at Mom: We have political compass at home. Political compass at home: : PoliticalCompassMemes

2) On the coordinate system the horizontal axis represents Left Wing (Feminine) vs Right Wing (Masculine) spectrum.

3) Vertical axis represents Collectivism/Authoritarianism vs Individualism/Libertarianism spectrum.

4) I roughly placed each MBTI type on the coordinate axis. Better to imagine that each type can move around in a circle of 2-square radius.

5) Also added Fantasy Role Playing classes that I think might be representative of each MBTI Type, for additional comparison of demeanor.


6) Starting from the upper left quadrant, in clockwise direction, it can be implied that:

Quadrant 1 = Fe domain (Collective Feminine) = Nurture/Healthcare/Education

Quadrant 2 = Te domain (Collective Masculine) = Industry/Military/Commerce

Quadrant 3 = Ti domain (Individualist Masculine) = Technology/Science/Crafts

Quadrant 4 = Fi domain (Individualist Feminine) = Nature/Enternainment/Arts



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Just an FYI, I’m and ISTP and am an Anarcho-Socialist. But those values apply only to those who are worthy. Regarding everyone who is willing to hurt or exploit others willy-nilly, I tend to side with your assassin over there on the right.
 
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