MBTI:
Alpha
Jack Sparrow - ENTP
Alice - ENTP
Mufasa - ESFJ
Pumbaa - ESFJ
Beta
Ariel - ENFJ
Scuttle - ENFJ
Belle - INFJ
Gamma
Timon - ESFP
Aladdin -ESFPISFP
Scar - ENTJ
Beast - INTJ
Delta
Simba - ENFP
Genie - ENFP
Jasmine - INFP
Mulan - INFP
Gaston - ESTJ
Favorite Disney scene. Wish Ariel was my dual, lol:
though a bit insecure.
sixes are just as insecure as me.
That's a bold statement to say about the majority of the planet. They are insecure when it comes to making their own decisions but being insecure is purely 4. Insecure means having low self-esteem which doesn't apply to most 6s.
No.Wouldn't insecurity about making their own decisions be synonymous with low self-esteem?
Low self-esteem is defined by a lacking confidence in one's own abilities or self, it's a broad description and does apply to both 6s and 4s. 6 more for abilities, 4 more for self.
The insecure people are the 4s and 9s since we always feel like we aren't lovable due to our lost childhood message.
Lost Childhood Messages
Type Four: You are seen for who you are.
Type Nine: Your presence matters.
No where does it say that 6s lack confidence in their abilities. You're just making stuff up now.
Why not? You said that insecurity means having low self-esteem, 6s have insecurity in their ability to be independent.
Why do you say that isn't synonymous with low self-esteem, but the 4's insecurity about their sense of identity is?
Yes but most people think low-self esteem when they think of the word 'insecure'. Linking 6's to these unflattering buzzwords will only cause them to be even more apprehensive to identifying as a 6.Insecurity is broadly defined by a lack of confidence in oneself, not a specific lack of confidence in one's ability to be loved.
I never said that 6s were insecure in the first place.It's not unrealistic to say that both 4s and 6s can be equally insecure individuals.
Needing guidance isn't linked to low self esteem. It's common sense.
4 is the most insecure type because they dig way too much into themselves and they are desperate with finding personal significance.
Yes but most people think low-self esteem when they think of the word 'insecure'. Linking 6's to these unflattering buzzwords will only cause them to be even more apprehensive to identifying as a 6.
So you're basically saying that the majority lack common sense?Needing guidance is common sense but thinking you are incapable without guidance isn't.
They are often described as such by non-6s that don't like 6s. The enneagram community is filled with 4s, 5s, 8s and 9w1s that have a massive grudge against 3s and 6s.6s are described often as being insecure, people have experiences with them being insecure. If it barks like a dog then it's probably a dog, is my point.
I suppose it's unflattering but I don't see how that matters if it's true, every enneagram type has something unflattering linked to them.
I'm not holding anything back. It's not true that they are insecure as a whole.I don't believe the way to counter that is to hold back on the 6's potential negative qualities.
So you're basically saying that the majority lack common sense?
They are often described as such by non-6s that don't like 6s. The enneagram community is filled with 4s, 5s, 8s and 9w1s that have a massive grudge against 3s and 6s.
It matters because the unflattering seems to be more highlighted than the flattering when it comes to this type. It matters because most people don't like to think of themselves as being a insecure worry-wart like how they are described. Your apathy is shining through.
I'm not holding anything back. It's not true that they are insecure as a whole.
I'm not being apathetic towards 6s, I'm taking an objective stance.
Find me a 4 that doesn't say that they have low self-esteem. Professionals and even themselves say that they are chronically depressed because they keep focusing on what is missing in their life. Nothing links 6s to having low self-esteem, you're making all this stuff up as I already said. Your subjective experiences doesn't outweigh what the professionals have said. Take some humble pie and give it a rest.when you are very comfortable labeling all 4s as having low self-esteem.
I won't respond again as I can clearly see when a discussion cannot go any further,
I enjoyed the opportunity to debate this topic and respect your opinion if you choose to remain unchanged.
That's a bold statement to say about the majority of the planet. They are insecure when it comes to making their own decisions but being insecure is purely 4. Insecure means having low self-esteem which doesn't apply to most 6s.
No, I wasn't referring to the planet. All the Sixes I've ever known are a bit insecure.
I guess Mulan might be a 6w7. She is into duty, loyal and forceful though a bit insecure.