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It's getting to the point that I'm not sure I can be on here any longer, the ignorance about what it means to be an SP (or SJ) vs NT and NF is beginning to make me see red.
Anyone else feel like that?
I mean seriously, it's driving me f'in nuts.
Does it say anywhere on here that we can't understand abstract ideas or metaphors, or employ them, for that matter? No, it says we 'tend' toward pragmatic actions, we learn 'best' experientially.
I don't see anything here that says we are incapable of new ideas, or creating something new based on a collaboration of the multitude of things we've experienced, read, seen, do you? I don't see anything that says we see pretty and shiny, therefore, paint pretty and shiny...
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Anyone else feel like that?
I mean seriously, it's driving me f'in nuts.
Improviser from Best fit:
The core needs are to have the freedom to act without hindrance and to see a marked result from action. People of this temperament highly value aesthetics, whether in nature or art. Their energies are focused on skillful performance, variety, and stimulation. They tend toward pragmatic, utilitarian actions with a focus on technique. They trust their impulses and have a drive to action. They learn best experientially and when they see the relevance of what they are learning to what they are doing. They enjoy hands-on, applied learning with a fast pace and freedom to explore.
Does it say anywhere on here that we can't understand abstract ideas or metaphors, or employ them, for that matter? No, it says we 'tend' toward pragmatic actions, we learn 'best' experientially.
Keirsey:
Artisans are the temperament with a natural ability to excel in any of the arts, not only the fine arts such as painting and sculpting, or the performing arts such as music, theater, and dance, but also the athletic, military, political, mechanical, and industrial arts, as well as the "art of the deal" in business.
Artisans are most at home in the real world of solid objects that can be made and manipulated, and of real-life events that can be experienced in the here and now. Artisans have exceptionally keen senses, and love working with their hands. They seem right at home with tools, instruments, and vehicles of all kinds, and their actions are usually aimed at getting them where they want to go, and as quickly as possible. Thus Artisans will strike off boldly down roads that others might consider risky or impossible, doing whatever it takes, rules or no rules, to accomplish their goals. This devil-may-care attitude also gives the Artisans a winning way with people, and they are often irresistibly charming with family, friends, and co-workers.
Artisans want to be where the action is; they seek out adventure and show a constant hunger for pleasure and stimulation. They believe that variety is the spice of life, and that doing things that aren't fun or exciting is a waste of time. Artisans are impulsive, adaptable, competitive, and believe the next throw of the dice will be the lucky one. They can also be generous to a fault, always ready to share with their friends from the bounty of life. Above all, Artisans need to be free to do what they wish, when they wish. They resist being tied or bound or confined or obligated; they would rather not wait, or save, or store, or live for tomorrow. In the Artisan view, today must be enjoyed, for tomorrow never comes.
I don't see anything here that says we are incapable of new ideas, or creating something new based on a collaboration of the multitude of things we've experienced, read, seen, do you? I don't see anything that says we see pretty and shiny, therefore, paint pretty and shiny...
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