INTPness
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I pose these questions mainly with ENTJ's in mind (I think), but my reasoning for having them in mind could be off, so I'd really like to hear from all NT's. As an INTP, I have many entrepreneurial ideas, but I often times have trouble extroverting those ideas (i.e. turning them into reality). I'm starting a non-profit corporation and, in time, I'd like to hand partial control over to an ENTJ. I want to handle the behind the scenes things and I want him/her to come on board and handle the actual execution of a lot of things. My "I" and my "P" can, if I allow them, be absolute killers in terms of running any kind of organization. My natural "I" keeps me turned inward and wanting to shy away from people. I'm capable of talking to people, but I watch ENTP's and ENTJ's and I think they're brilliant in many ways. The "P" can be a serious problem as well. I think it does have some positives (flexibilitly, willingness to bounce around when necessary, strange or inconsistent hours can be tolerated, etc.). But, the ENTJ's have that follow-through attribute. They are focused on completion.
Anyways, I'm not looking for a "puppet" to take orders and run my organization for me. And I don't think ENTJ's fit that mold anyways. The ones I've known are leaders. I'm looking more for a partner with a dynamic mind who will compliment me and who is willing to play a big role in being the "face of the organization" - the one people want to call and deal with and they know that when they deal with this person, things get done. Of course, I will be well-known by the organizations and individuals that we deal with as well (I wouldn't want it any other way, otherwise I'd probably feel like it wasn't my organization anymore), but hopefully you see where I'm going with this. I want ENTJ attributes, along with mine, to come together and lead this organization.
So, finally, here are some questions. While ENTP's are often associated with having entrepreneurial spirits, ENTJ's are sometimes associated with CEO types. In the scenario I described above, would most ENTJ's fit well into a role like this or would they eventually try to overpower me and more or less "take over" the ship? More than likely an INTP and ENTJ would have at least similar outlooks. I'm not saying we wouldn't have disagreements, just saying that our general outlooks on how things should be done would probably be at least "workable". I have worked with ESTJ's who have tried to take over the ship on me and it just doesn't work. It ends up in a lot of clashing because, I usually don't give in and they seem accustomed to people submitting to their gameplan. NT/NT would seem to work much better. Do you all think ENTJ is the best partnership for what I've described or is there a better type for this role in the organization?
Thanks for any input!!
Anyways, I'm not looking for a "puppet" to take orders and run my organization for me. And I don't think ENTJ's fit that mold anyways. The ones I've known are leaders. I'm looking more for a partner with a dynamic mind who will compliment me and who is willing to play a big role in being the "face of the organization" - the one people want to call and deal with and they know that when they deal with this person, things get done. Of course, I will be well-known by the organizations and individuals that we deal with as well (I wouldn't want it any other way, otherwise I'd probably feel like it wasn't my organization anymore), but hopefully you see where I'm going with this. I want ENTJ attributes, along with mine, to come together and lead this organization.
So, finally, here are some questions. While ENTP's are often associated with having entrepreneurial spirits, ENTJ's are sometimes associated with CEO types. In the scenario I described above, would most ENTJ's fit well into a role like this or would they eventually try to overpower me and more or less "take over" the ship? More than likely an INTP and ENTJ would have at least similar outlooks. I'm not saying we wouldn't have disagreements, just saying that our general outlooks on how things should be done would probably be at least "workable". I have worked with ESTJ's who have tried to take over the ship on me and it just doesn't work. It ends up in a lot of clashing because, I usually don't give in and they seem accustomed to people submitting to their gameplan. NT/NT would seem to work much better. Do you all think ENTJ is the best partnership for what I've described or is there a better type for this role in the organization?
Thanks for any input!!