Eric B
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- sp/sx
I know this song is heavily NF, but wondering whether FeNi or FiNe. the overall tone seems like FiNe, (the iNtuition clearly seems extraverted), but in mentioning it to my wife, she suggested (based on what I've been teaching her about this stuff) that the Feeling in the song was extraverted. It's concerned about the world, "not for myself", and "everyone". However, that of course could be the "universal" aspect of introverted Feeling.
I've come to see "function attitudes" as more fluid rather than hard distinctions. Sometimes it's hard to tell where one ends and the other begins. Hence in cases like this, I'm still trying to make sure I'm understanding it right. The question then is where the desired "harmony" is; internal or external. It seems to be more external, but then, it also sems to match stereotypical portrayals of Fi values. So then, would it be "internal" harmony from the fulfilling of "universal" values ("holistic" connections across "wide area matrix" according to Mark Bruzon, Fundamental Nature of MBTI)?
Anyway, it's well into Christmas season, and I thought it would be good to dissect some songs like this. (There was another one I thought of, but it escapes me at the moment). So what does everyone else take this as?
Do you remember me?
I sat upon your knee
I wrote to you With childhood fantasies
Well, I'm all grown-up now
And still need help somehow.
I'm not a child But my heart still can dream
So here's my lifelong wish
My grown-up christmas list
Not for myself But for a world in need
No more lives torn apart
That wars would never start,
And time would heal all hearts
And everyone would have a friend
And right would always win
And love would never end
This is my grown-up christmas list
As children we believed The grandest sight to see
Was something lovely Wrapped beneath our tree.
Well heaven surely knows
That packages and bows
Can never heal A hurting human soul
No more lives torn apart
That wars would never start
And time would heal all hearts
And everyone would have a friend
And right would always win
And love would never end
This is my grown-up christmas list
What is this illusion called the innocence of youth?
Maybe only in our blind belief can we ever find the truth(There'd be)
No more lives torn apart.
That wars would never start
And time would heal all hearts
And everyone would have a friend
And right would always win
And love would never end, oh
This is my grown-up christmas list
This is my grown-up christmas list.
I've come to see "function attitudes" as more fluid rather than hard distinctions. Sometimes it's hard to tell where one ends and the other begins. Hence in cases like this, I'm still trying to make sure I'm understanding it right. The question then is where the desired "harmony" is; internal or external. It seems to be more external, but then, it also sems to match stereotypical portrayals of Fi values. So then, would it be "internal" harmony from the fulfilling of "universal" values ("holistic" connections across "wide area matrix" according to Mark Bruzon, Fundamental Nature of MBTI)?
Anyway, it's well into Christmas season, and I thought it would be good to dissect some songs like this. (There was another one I thought of, but it escapes me at the moment). So what does everyone else take this as?
Do you remember me?
I sat upon your knee
I wrote to you With childhood fantasies
Well, I'm all grown-up now
And still need help somehow.
I'm not a child But my heart still can dream
So here's my lifelong wish
My grown-up christmas list
Not for myself But for a world in need
No more lives torn apart
That wars would never start,
And time would heal all hearts
And everyone would have a friend
And right would always win
And love would never end
This is my grown-up christmas list
As children we believed The grandest sight to see
Was something lovely Wrapped beneath our tree.
Well heaven surely knows
That packages and bows
Can never heal A hurting human soul
No more lives torn apart
That wars would never start
And time would heal all hearts
And everyone would have a friend
And right would always win
And love would never end
This is my grown-up christmas list
What is this illusion called the innocence of youth?
Maybe only in our blind belief can we ever find the truth(There'd be)
No more lives torn apart.
That wars would never start
And time would heal all hearts
And everyone would have a friend
And right would always win
And love would never end, oh
This is my grown-up christmas list
This is my grown-up christmas list.