ABluePlanetian
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So, I've known this girl and has seen her communicate with other people. I have tried viewing her type via motives and reactions, but really, this girl strikes me as either a non-INFJ or at least, if she was, she's probably an unhealthy one.
I guess sometimes the description of INFJ portrait tends to be a little bit... abstract. I mean, anyone who was dealing with critical emotional state and psychology can totally related to terms like "unique", "fragile yet strong-willed", "spiritual and developmental seeking" and sometimes even "compassionate, coorperative" - they can be misinterpreted by readers (and they were also being hooked by the reputation that INFJ rare percentage in population - though I think the population charts are quiet ridiculous and unrealistic, for who would ever know personality types of all people, including ones who did not even know what MBTI was). That's why she identify herself being one.
But so far when I watched some videos about classic INFJs, examples are Carey Mulligan and Adrien Brody, they all look quiet calm and composed during interviews. They have this sort of ease and soft aura surrounds them, they are eloquent and can be stereotyped as a spiritual teacher/philosopher.
No, this girl is not an INFP. She might have snowflake syndrome - but she's too aggressive and authoritative to be one. I have already had enough Fi-dominant people in my life: my father (INFP), my ISFP super-best cousin and the other INFP best-friend/partner in crime - they are nothing like this girl at all.
1. She's always getting angry if someone says anything that slightly provoked her - not yet offended her, just slightly suggestive that she should do her creative work in a different way (that pleases them).
Basically, she was right when refusing others who want to take advantages and manipulate her. But at least, I think the best way to react is to ignore them or reject their ideas politely. You don't have to be so expressively frank by putting comments like "stop controlling me, bitches/jerks, I will do what I want and your opinion is invalid". That's just plainly rude, not to mention, the people who asked her for things was initially quiet polite and put their suggestion in a subtle way, but she's just explode everything up for no reason.
2. She sometimes coorperates with other people, as long as they were like-minded people who working to contribute to her ideas, her work and let her being in charge.
The good point is, she's extremely ambitious and hard-working, in a positive way. She puts lots of her efforts to make her dream come true, that's why everyone thinks she was admirable and even, charismatic. But there's also many people who envy with her and want to destroy her works by saying nasty things, which makes me feel bad for her since she did not deserved that. However, at the same time, I think she was somewhat trying to dictate her friends - it's just they were too carefree and naive to acknowledge it. She was self-centered and even dramatic sometimes, that's why she never felt comfortable when one of her co-worker contributed a different idea that might break her "inner vision", and she preferred to be alone instead.
3. She never cares to be well-dressed or nicely-presented in public.
She likes fashion and aesthetic things, books and arts, but still wears boyish shirt and jeans on daily basis. Girlish things were the worst gifts for her. But deep down inside, she's still delusioned herself as a victim who needed to be noticed - not saved, by noticed, appreciated and praised, but acted tough on outside so nobody could clearly see that - then, seeing it's not working, she started to blamed the whole world for neglecting and not caring enough for her.
4. Oh, and one more thing, when she's depressed or bored, she will actually come up with quiet a lot of ideas which I found disturbing and "indulgent".
She acted like a sophisticated and complicated character, but also harbouring fantasy for sexual fetishes and will actually be open about it, more than twice or three-times, on social media. Which... I found sort of disturbing... It's just like you found out that a person who tried to show a "creator" image could be openly crack him/herself as being emotionally delusioned and sexually-indulgent sometimes. I know everyone has faults and crazy ideas, but talking about them like "yeah, it's my unique character. I'm so paradoxical," is not actually a good point.
5. She likes to correct me in an indirect, sarcastic and cold way.
If I've done something wrong that portrait details about her wrongly, she will make something that disprove/correct those details, and would never say thank you, instead of being actually appreciated that I was a fan of her work. That's make me really upset because I think I have tried my best to make friend with her. But she constantly pushed me and others away, stating that nobody could understand and accept her.
I don't really think she's an INFP who tries to "impose" an INFJ. She's not a Si-user at all and was occasionally showing her sign of using Se in an unhealthy way.
But she does not use Fe. I can see that because she was struggling with her own identity and falling into sadness whenever she thinks no one will accept her true person. But what if it was due to her oversensitivity and insecurity that society has badly influenced her?
Any opinion?
I guess sometimes the description of INFJ portrait tends to be a little bit... abstract. I mean, anyone who was dealing with critical emotional state and psychology can totally related to terms like "unique", "fragile yet strong-willed", "spiritual and developmental seeking" and sometimes even "compassionate, coorperative" - they can be misinterpreted by readers (and they were also being hooked by the reputation that INFJ rare percentage in population - though I think the population charts are quiet ridiculous and unrealistic, for who would ever know personality types of all people, including ones who did not even know what MBTI was). That's why she identify herself being one.
But so far when I watched some videos about classic INFJs, examples are Carey Mulligan and Adrien Brody, they all look quiet calm and composed during interviews. They have this sort of ease and soft aura surrounds them, they are eloquent and can be stereotyped as a spiritual teacher/philosopher.
No, this girl is not an INFP. She might have snowflake syndrome - but she's too aggressive and authoritative to be one. I have already had enough Fi-dominant people in my life: my father (INFP), my ISFP super-best cousin and the other INFP best-friend/partner in crime - they are nothing like this girl at all.
1. She's always getting angry if someone says anything that slightly provoked her - not yet offended her, just slightly suggestive that she should do her creative work in a different way (that pleases them).
Basically, she was right when refusing others who want to take advantages and manipulate her. But at least, I think the best way to react is to ignore them or reject their ideas politely. You don't have to be so expressively frank by putting comments like "stop controlling me, bitches/jerks, I will do what I want and your opinion is invalid". That's just plainly rude, not to mention, the people who asked her for things was initially quiet polite and put their suggestion in a subtle way, but she's just explode everything up for no reason.
2. She sometimes coorperates with other people, as long as they were like-minded people who working to contribute to her ideas, her work and let her being in charge.
The good point is, she's extremely ambitious and hard-working, in a positive way. She puts lots of her efforts to make her dream come true, that's why everyone thinks she was admirable and even, charismatic. But there's also many people who envy with her and want to destroy her works by saying nasty things, which makes me feel bad for her since she did not deserved that. However, at the same time, I think she was somewhat trying to dictate her friends - it's just they were too carefree and naive to acknowledge it. She was self-centered and even dramatic sometimes, that's why she never felt comfortable when one of her co-worker contributed a different idea that might break her "inner vision", and she preferred to be alone instead.
3. She never cares to be well-dressed or nicely-presented in public.
She likes fashion and aesthetic things, books and arts, but still wears boyish shirt and jeans on daily basis. Girlish things were the worst gifts for her. But deep down inside, she's still delusioned herself as a victim who needed to be noticed - not saved, by noticed, appreciated and praised, but acted tough on outside so nobody could clearly see that - then, seeing it's not working, she started to blamed the whole world for neglecting and not caring enough for her.
4. Oh, and one more thing, when she's depressed or bored, she will actually come up with quiet a lot of ideas which I found disturbing and "indulgent".
She acted like a sophisticated and complicated character, but also harbouring fantasy for sexual fetishes and will actually be open about it, more than twice or three-times, on social media. Which... I found sort of disturbing... It's just like you found out that a person who tried to show a "creator" image could be openly crack him/herself as being emotionally delusioned and sexually-indulgent sometimes. I know everyone has faults and crazy ideas, but talking about them like "yeah, it's my unique character. I'm so paradoxical," is not actually a good point.
5. She likes to correct me in an indirect, sarcastic and cold way.
If I've done something wrong that portrait details about her wrongly, she will make something that disprove/correct those details, and would never say thank you, instead of being actually appreciated that I was a fan of her work. That's make me really upset because I think I have tried my best to make friend with her. But she constantly pushed me and others away, stating that nobody could understand and accept her.
I don't really think she's an INFP who tries to "impose" an INFJ. She's not a Si-user at all and was occasionally showing her sign of using Se in an unhealthy way.
But she does not use Fe. I can see that because she was struggling with her own identity and falling into sadness whenever she thinks no one will accept her true person. But what if it was due to her oversensitivity and insecurity that society has badly influenced her?
Any opinion?