Totenkindly
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The INTP scores are fascinating.
Well that's a bigger question... "would yeu do it if there were no restrictions, if yeu wouldn't feel guilty, if noone cared, if yeur SO didn't feel bad about it?"
Durr the answer is YES.
The only reason we DON'T is because we'd get in trouble, or because we were taught it was wrong. If yeu want to do it and hold yeurself back 'because it's wrong' , then if yeu weren't taught it was wrong, and it wasn't taboo, yeu would've done it normally.
The only advantage yeu have there at all is the ability to go against yeur instincts, and instead go with the training yeu were given. Seriously, by not commiting adultery, yeu have just justified yeurself as being as intelligent as... a dog. Because yeu went against basic instinct, and did something yeu were trained to do out of fear of being punished.
Is this a bad thing? Not really, but it doesn't really mean yeu have any 'true' moral high ground, as the moral wasn't held by every civilization either, see the example of rome previously. So going "zomg I don't do that because people say it's wrong" just means yeu're accepting a moral that was told to yeu, not validating it for yeurself whether it's really something yeu truly believe, or if yeu're just going along with it because yeu're scared of reprisal.
Yeu may truly believe it, in which case I'm quite glad that yeu're standing up for whot yeu believe in, even if it can be very difficult to do at times. I just don't like seeing people think they're morally superiour for showing off they're too scared to provide their own opinion and morals and just latch onto the herd mentality for fear of being kicked out of the herd.
Think carefully about yeur opinions and morals, don't just blindly follow everyone else "because it's the right thing to do". If yeu don't know WHY it's the right thing to do, then yeu aren't moral at all, yeu're just scared of getting caught.
Yes, they are. I can't remember if there is a poll like it on INTPc, but I think the results would be more diverse with a broader sampling.The INTP scores are fascinating.
i haven't been in many 'defined' relationships, but they have always been open relationships. so, technically, there has been no cheating. from a monogamous point of view - definitely.
Yes, they are. I can't remember if there is a poll like it on INTPc, but I think the results would be more diverse with a broader sampling.
I don't think INTPs are especially inclined to cheat, but I think some of them have trouble ending a current relationship despite being dissatisfied because they dislike closure and/or confrontation.
For that reason they seem to sometimes . . . leave themselves open to circumstances that will force their or their partner's hand, ie. the person they are cheating with will push them to end their relationship or their partner will find out about the cheating and end the relationship.
It is the forums that have influenced my perceptions. Way more INTP hookups than I would have expected, including people that are in relationships.I'm not convinced you will get much of a spread of answers... NTs are suppose to be faithful psycologically so these results are only a little surpising to me.
Can you take the survey over and do it on INTP? I'd me interested to see if there was much difference.
For what its worth I had and INTP flirt very heavily with me, but in the type of way I kind of knew he would never follow through.
For what its worth I had and INTP flirt very heavily with me, but in the type of way I kind of knew he would never follow through.
Because it sounds too much like work and I'm just not that motivated right now. As long as it's not my INTP doing the cheating I'm not overly concerned. I don't think he's that kind of guy, but he also knows I'm crazy enough to cut his weenie off if I ever found out he put it in someone else.Cafe, why not poll them, it would at least validate the finding... it's pretty increadible that so few are unfaithful across the whole NT group
he also knows I'm crazy enough to cut his weenie off if I ever found out he put it in someone else.
every single man i know has at least had a one night stand while being in a relationship. so me and quite a few of my friends have come to a conclusion that a faithful man is a fairytale creature - a lot of people talk about them but noone has actually ever seen one...
The INTP scores are fascinating.
If a person I'm seeing is proposing an open relationship, I will end the relationship all together. It is obvious at that point neither of us will be able to satisfy the others' needs. I require the same exclusivity that I give, and I cannot give anything contrary to that.
My rigidity may end up with me being alone in the end, but I'll be alone with my integrity, and that is a perfectly acceptable outcome for me.
On a side-note, yes, I'm aware of how J I sound.
i haven't been in many 'defined' relationships, but they have always been open relationships. so, technically, there has been no cheating. from a monogamous point of view - definitely.
to make the relationship 'open' has always been my suggestion. a very rational one, too - i don't know ANY MAN who has been faithful. not one. and i have many male friends (friend friends) who have told me that. every single man i know has at least had a one night stand while being in a relationship. so me and quite a few of my friends have come to a conclusion that a faithful man is a fairytale creature - a lot of people talk about them but noone has actually ever seen one...
there is just no point to expect someone to be faithful if it's not going to happen. ever.
on the other hand - if he's free to shag around, so am i.
hence the open relationships.
^good lord. do you have the cliff notes, with proper spelling?
yes, exactly. even if i have been in open relationships, i have mostly ended up behaving monogamously. "mostly" meaning in most of those open relationships, not that i have mostly been monogamous in all those relationships, just to be clear . i can't really explain why, but it sort of has been like... irrelevant... to sleep with someone else. but i have appreciated the freedom to do so if i just wanted to.This. I have never technically cheated, but I have pushed for open relationships. If, however, I am forced to commit because I like the person and don't want to lose him, I am utterly and completely faithful. I don't take promises lightly. That being said, there is no danger of that at all anyway if I am head over heels for someone. Even in completely open relationships, I still end up behaving monogamously.
Actually, I'm pretty sure it's a cultural and historical thing. Partly, at least. But I'm not going to move to another country soon, so...Mm, that's weird. At least say, 75 % of my male friends have been faithful in their relationships. Past 18 years of age you're considered a bit of a scum if you're unfaithful to your girlfriend (you're not considered badly if you just sleep with many girls, but if you do while you're with somebody, yes). That's perhaps due to the catholic church's influence.
DAMMIT! Who the hell destroyed the ENTJ statistics!?!?!?!?!
Give me a name, and his/her head on a plate!!!