Don't talk about the NTs that way. Some of my best friends are NTs.
She wants to know why she gets yelled at when she claims to be a type she obviously* is not.
(arguably -- meaning it's "obvious" to others)
It is somewhat annoying when various people talk about their "four INFJ friends" or something like that. It's very unlikely that you, or anyone for that matter, has four friends who would type as INFJ. It's also unlikely that everyone in your family is an intuitive if there are four or more people in it; the numbers strongly lean toward someone being a sensor.
Well, you're still typing yourself based on which traits you like in people & how you want to be seen/treated by others. Which isn't the right way to type yourself, but at this point I should know that nothing will convince you that you aren't INTP (which seems to be everyone else's consensus though, sighhhh). I really don't understand how you could so... flippantly ignore golden (typing) advice from a number of wise members on this forum who now seem to have wasted their breaths.
I give up - crazy can't be reasoned with. Fool yourself if you so wish, but don't expect everyone else to be fooled.
It's funny that I probably relate less to the generic, flat INTP profiles on the interwebs than you claim to do. Oh well, I'm outta here.
So several people have implicitly called me crazy or irrational or both. Is this the popular consensus?
I don't know that I'm typing myself that way- it just makes sense to me. And it's just a temporary kind of type, as I can't neatly put myself into one. Convincing me I'm not INTP is fine, but not-INTP is not a type. I don't see that I fit INFP or INTJ any more. They're about the same in my mind. As for advice, I have expressed appreciation for all of it that I find to be useful and respectful, and taken it into consideration. Not agreeing doesn't mean I haven't listened. I may decide on a type some day which is other than INTP, and it might be because of what people have told me; but that time is not now.
So, how did you decide on your type? In what ways are you INTP that you think I am blatantly not, and what makes you sure of your type if you relate less to the profiles?
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Make a video, that's always fun. It most likely wont make much difference but it could help if you portray yourself as an archetype of what people seem to believe constitutes an INTP.
So...monotone voice, not much body movement apart from the hands which will be used as visual aids to draw the idea for the viewer....there are probably more but since im only joking it doesn't matter. Oh yeah dont mention liking anything, because liking something is a preference of value and we all know thinkers dont have those....
However putting the joke paragraph above to the side for a moment, a video could be interesting. Unless you have already done one somewhere and ive missed it, or you dont have the technology to make a video.
One of the big problems with forums such as these is that you can pass yourself off as anything given enough time, information, practice and understanding.
I shall! But at the present time I lack the technology. I have a video camera, but I have a lot studying and homework to do, and I have to go to work and socialize; so the chances I will have the time to figure out the camera and do the video any time in the near future are slim. Yeah, I'm not a techno wizard. -1 for INTP.
Okay, I see. Thanks for clarifying.
I decided not to curse you with a specific type 'cause I don't think I have enough information in my hands to do that. With the INFP vs INTJ thing - the former makes use of Ne and the latter, Ni. Ni would be foreign to an INFP (or an INTP; both INFPs and INTPs have auxillary Ne instead), as Ne would be foreign to an INTJ. INTJs' primary cognitive function is Ni - Ne, then, would automatically become their demonic (8th; least preferred) function.
How did I decide on my type? I read a lot of in-depth material/threads on the cognitive functions, and discovered that how I process and express information aligns more with Ti rather than Te, Ne rather than Ni, Si rather than Se, and Fe rather than Fi. Spending a lot of time with my INTJ best friend (who prefers all the opposite functions) proved to be a rather enlightening experience actually; while we tended to agree on a lot of things and possessed very similar traits, (after butting heads several times in drawn-out, tedious debates) it became obvious to both of us that we didn't process information like each other at all. However, both of us could understand (with some effort) where the other person was coming from. I guess you could say that we learned to appreciate and respect each other's thought processes.
To answer your second question: I don't think you're INTP because I don't think you reason along the lines of Ti logic/in the Ti mindset. I was able to observe Te-style thinking/logical procedures though. There really isn't much else I could say about this issue, as 1) I don't know you in person and 2) my only source of information on you is this thread, and you haven't expanded upon which cognitive functions you prefer with the following pairings: Ne vs Ni, Se vs Si.
I went about it much the same way. I first looked at the descriptions, then at the cognitive functions. I didn't compare all of them, because it seemed unnecessary after awhile.
Er, okay. I think you should finish your homework then.