Agreed. At least we INTJs tend to have a method in our madness, and Te is pretty good at reality checking.
This is a very interesting set of comments. I believe you are right about observing the Fi convictions and how those can be less than optimal. I'd never thought about that much. I don't think your second bolded comment seems correct however. INTJs develop Te pretty early. They have to.
That's possible. It might be an example of the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I can't think of a better metaphor, sorry.
I also have the sense that INTPs sometimes also feel that Ni + Te produces sloppy thinking which is especially noticeable to them in the context of online discussions/debates.
Oh, I definitely feel this way when I have discussions with
some INTJs. It only bugs me more when, rather than acknowledging this, and either providing clarification, refutations, or retractions, they'll merely throw in some bullshit comment about how I'm not seeing the light or "being objective" and imply that the fault lies with me for not being "intelligent" enough to understand what they are saying. That's when they don't try and ignore the thing entirely by suddenly trying to shift to some new "fact" that has suddenly become more important.
The thing I would keep in mind above all is that INTJs truly are dominant perceivers as much as they might appear to the outside world to be different than that.
Oh, that's obvious to me, and why the Socionics way makes more sense to me. The thing is, some INTJs speak as though they aren't fluid dynamic percievers, but rather hard-nosed judging extraverted thinkers. They don't have opinions, thoughts or beliefs, merely "facts" that they have discovered.
That's when they start to annoy me. I realized recently that I must have been arguing with INTJs for a long time, because it's not the first time I've gotten annoyed by someone throwing out something totally subjective
and unsupported, and said that I am "clouded by personal bias" or "not objective" for not simply rolling with their unsupported assertions.