Riva
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- sp/sx
Okay i am dragging you guys here again.
It might be helpful to read the posts i have made to starry and OA.
Woah how is it that you suggested sx so but not sx sp? The intesity part compared to other e9s i can agree on but not the parts in which i forgo sp requirements and chase sx needs. Until i came to that part i agreed but afterwhich i had to disagree. I read the sx/sp part too but could agree with it. Will mention those when i read it again.
Like i have said in a few posts above: i can NEVER agree on e9 descriptions except for maybe the calmm body language. Body language vise i am definitely 9 over 7. I have a sexy suave vibe .
Also no no no, it would be wrong to say that my strength could be observed in my zen power of self control. I lash out easily. I can observe a zen power of self control in not adding fule to the fire - doenst want to add to the drama by sharing my phobias. I think that part sounds e9ish.
Hmmm one last observation - i maintain calmness - atleast try to - when a group has a planned focus or there is a person 'who. I like' takes the lead and suggests things.
Man i suck at self discovery.
If you have any other suggestion than entp 'please' share. Now is your chance sky. I am surely a T type though.
Sadly i can't relate to the description. Too many disagreements.
I wonder having to have grow up with a loud estj 8w7 dad and a cp 6 estp sister might have molded me into becoming a 9 or giving traits of a 9.
Considering e9s intergrate and disintergrate into types that are not in the same triad it's easy to identify where you belong. E7 intergrate into e5 and that causes aot of confusion.
Anyway i think a core issue i see in e9 descriptions is the desire to remain calm amidst issues -that is how i see it -, i on the otherhand desires to sail the crowd, yet i am comparatively calmer than 7s.
I once saw a disney (entp 9w8) video and was thinking how the fuck can he remain so calm and whether he bottles things up.
Hmm i think i know a estp 7w8 - who has a shit mouth - who is really calm despite the fact that he doesn't bottle things up. He i can relate to a bit. I think he is a sp dom. I wish i had his lady luck .
It might be helpful to read the posts i have made to starry and OA.
This does make you sound 8-ish. I would emphasise the "calmness as a sign of strength" aspect of the 9w8 - based on my own personal experience this is integral to type. They don't lack the ability to express anger; they simply choose not to. If you think of 8s as being about control and power, with 9w8s it's about the zen power of self-possession.
I also think a lot of the 9 descriptions have more of a 9w1 lean to them. I'll try to find some better descriptions to help figure it out.
If you were a 9 would certainly have a big effect on how your instincts come across (this is partly why I was circumspect about making claims about your instincts). I would think a Sexual 9 would be a pretty mellow Sx-first, comparatively.
What about this:
Does that address some of your uncertainties?
Oh no, you've been dad-zoned! But seriously, I don't think she would have meant it like that.
Actually 9w8 (along with 2w3) is just about the last option I think of when typing someone, so my remark was more of surprise. I don't know whether those types are rare or they just seem that way. I wonder if this may have been a factor in why you seem hard to type.
Woah how is it that you suggested sx so but not sx sp? The intesity part compared to other e9s i can agree on but not the parts in which i forgo sp requirements and chase sx needs. Until i came to that part i agreed but afterwhich i had to disagree. I read the sx/sp part too but could agree with it. Will mention those when i read it again.
Like i have said in a few posts above: i can NEVER agree on e9 descriptions except for maybe the calmm body language. Body language vise i am definitely 9 over 7. I have a sexy suave vibe .
Also no no no, it would be wrong to say that my strength could be observed in my zen power of self control. I lash out easily. I can observe a zen power of self control in not adding fule to the fire - doenst want to add to the drama by sharing my phobias. I think that part sounds e9ish.
Hmmm one last observation - i maintain calmness - atleast try to - when a group has a planned focus or there is a person 'who. I like' takes the lead and suggests things.
Man i suck at self discovery.
Cool [MENTION=5871]Southern Kross[/MENTION], good questions!!
Yeah, Riva, my little brother is an 9w8 sp/sx,and he definitely is not shy about expressing his anger when he gets pissed off. He's kind of quiet about it, though - he's pretty protective and only really gets angry when his girlfriend gets herself into dangerous situations, and then he is surprisingly assertive towards her. Or if someone endangers his space or his stuff. Otherwise he's pretty chill. He and I would get in awful fights when we were younger, too. Neither of us likes backing down, lol.
I think 9 descriptions, in addition to typically being geared towards w1, are also typically geared towards INxPs, and for any other type, there are going to be some differences. If it's true that you're an ENTP, you're going to be more outspoken, blunt, adventurous, and energetic than the average 9.
Just for curiosity's sake, here's a 9w8 so/sp, the BlissStream description -
Often make good mentors for the lost, wayward or delinquent. Reliable individuals with good leadership ability but may wind up in supporting positions because their diversity of energy can make it harder to define themselves firmly...they have a sense of never being known in spite of their successes which they only wind up reframing as luck. May not be an intellectual in the traditional sense of the word but is the most intellectually-inclined 9w8...they often have a draw to sociology or physics and can make good problem-solvers. This can come with an absent-minded quality...Even if they aren't sociologists in the official sense, they are naturals at tuning into the voice of the faces in the crowd. They like the faces that go uncelebrated. Can justify their actions based on other people's responses and assess whether a choice is right or not by whether it gives them more sense of belonging. When it comes to group or political involvement, they'll dabble enough to feel like they belong to a larger whole while declining any hard-core involvement. Most inclined 9w8 to handle conflict diplomatically, in hopes of bringing others to a peaceful resolution.
If you have any other suggestion than entp 'please' share. Now is your chance sky. I am surely a T type though.
Sadly i can't relate to the description. Too many disagreements.
I wonder having to have grow up with a loud estj 8w7 dad and a cp 6 estp sister might have molded me into becoming a 9 or giving traits of a 9.
Considering e9s intergrate and disintergrate into types that are not in the same triad it's easy to identify where you belong. E7 intergrate into e5 and that causes aot of confusion.
Anyway i think a core issue i see in e9 descriptions is the desire to remain calm amidst issues -that is how i see it -, i on the otherhand desires to sail the crowd, yet i am comparatively calmer than 7s.
I once saw a disney (entp 9w8) video and was thinking how the fuck can he remain so calm and whether he bottles things up.
Hmm i think i know a estp 7w8 - who has a shit mouth - who is really calm despite the fact that he doesn't bottle things up. He i can relate to a bit. I think he is a sp dom. I wish i had his lady luck .