So what if you could achieve all these things without their "dark side", why wouldn't it be a life worth living? A world without the law of diminishing marginal utility. Suffering is exactly why it is so hard to imagine a world of constant positive emotions and neverending pleasure.
If those things could even be achieved without their dark side, that was my point, what catalyst would people have to do anything? to grow or innovate at all, if they had nothing to overcome? Suffering is the whole reason why anyone even cares enough to even imagine "a world of constant positive emotions and neverending pleasure." hence why the idea of "heaven" and other similar concepts materialized within various cultures.
What would be "the point"? Why does it need "a point"?
Does suffering have "a point", or is it more that you post-rationalize shit by saying it is necessary for being a counterweight to all the good things?
Everybody could be happy in their little microcosm, even people who enjoy suffering.
It is necessary, at least in my opinion, if you have no idea what darkness is, never experienced it, how do you compare it to the light? can you fully appreciate something good without ever knowing anything different? would we really be happy? would we really experience pleasure? if there is no reference point for either how would we even know or care? I am fairly certain the whole point was that it would be a complete paradise devoid of any suffering, others couldn't opt out by definition of that statement, so I would be forcing this "paradise" on many it seems do not want it,
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Who says it is a better option? being constantly consumed by pleasure, focused on ones own selfish little world of fake happiness, is not what I would personally consider better, facing adversity, suffering, and rising above it all, coming out of it a better person, making the choice to live a happier healthier life, and still loving others and doing what you can to reduce their suffering and bring happiness to their lives, that makes you better than being simply human... imposing a fake magical happiness on the whole world, although I understand why one would want to (im still not entirely sure what id choose, but you are making me leans more toward not wanting to open the box...) would make you a wonderful awesome transcendent being, taking all that suffering on yourself to make them all happy, but you destroy any chance they have of making the same choice, you enslave them to your choice, and destroy their potential.
That being said, if they had the choice on whether or not to opt in/out, if they could try a trial period lets say "ok, I will go along with this for a year, then turn back to normal and decide whether I wanna be this way for the rest of my life." then id say ok, I will open the box... but I just dont think I would feel right doing something that destroys every ones potential, takes away all of their choice in the matter... really, it seems like a control trip...
But these are just my feelings/beliefs on the matter, and I have not said at any point that others should feel the same, however you seem quite invested in your opinions on it, and thats ok, we can feel/believe differently on this, especially since its a complete hypothetical scenario that will never be possible, so there is no reason to let this discussion get to intense.