The Terminator
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I have no experience in INTJ + ENTJ relationship. How was it like? Was she/he bossy?
...narcissistic and manipulative...a lot less self-controlled than me, prone to random emotional outbursts when the tension starts to build up inside, and really bossy. She can't handle any sort of criticism or dissent, and gets really upset when I dare to disagree with her....I also don't like her passive-aggressiveness and the way she acts super sweet and charming to people when underneath she's a cold-hearted villain.
There is a very good website that provides relationship information.I have no experience in INTJ + ENTJ relationship. How was it like? Was she/he bossy?
I have no experience in INTJ + ENTJ relationship. How was it like? Was she/he bossy?
Mirror relations between psychological ("personality") types
These are relations of mutual correction. Mirror partners have similar interests and ideas, but a slightly different understanding of the same problems. Each partner can see only half of one problem. Therefore the partners always find what the other partner is thinking interesting. Usually partners quickly realise that they are very like-minded.
The area of confidence of one partner is always the area of creativity for the other partner. What one partner considers solid and final appears incomplete and changeable for the other partner. This difference may often puzzle the partners especially when they fulfil their mutual plans. It seems for them as if the other partner simply misunderstood the main concept. Therefore partners attempt to correct each other's understanding but usually fail, because each partner acts from their confident side. For the same reason, Mirror partners can be involved in really hot disputes and can even come to blows in the name of their opinion.
However, Mirror partners are often very good friends. When they work together on the same project, their mutual correction and adjustment becomes a constructive criticism that is usually accepted as useful. The main discomfort in these relations is caused by the difference in Judgement and Perception between the partners. Mirror partners generally agree about setting near future goals, but disagree about global aims. Mirror relations usually lack warm atmosphere between partners. This situation normally changes in presence of a third person who is Dual to one partner and an Activity partner to the other.
Wow!
Yeah there is NO WAY I would ever date an ENTJ.
Finally and most importantly, INTJ-INFP relationships are common because these types complement each other so well. Both INTJs and INFPs enjoy abstract discussions, including potential ways of improving the world. INFPs are great listeners and enjoy taking in new ideas and information via their Ne. This complements INTJs’ love of dispensing information a la Te. Moreover, both types use the Fi-Te function pair, which can significantly improve communication and reduce the likelihood of misunderstandings. INFPs are less apt to be scared off by INTJs’ Te, since INFPs also use Te in their communication. For these reasons and more, this pairing seems to have unlimited potential for growth, depth, and intimacy.
ESTJs and ENTJs report being quite uncomfortable with their own and others’ Feeling judgement, “It seems mushy and chaotic and scary, not crisp and precise like thinking,†said one ENTJ. An ESTJ described her uneasiness about expressing appreciation of complimenting others verbally: “I never know how much is appropriate. It always feels gushy.†She found writing thank-you notes to be much more satisfying both personally and to the recipients, who recognised the genuine depth of her feelings.
Because their opposites, Introverted Feeling types, are so hard to “read,†Extraverted Thinking types may judge Extraverted Feeling types, who readily express their dominant Feeling, more harshly than they do Introverted Feeling types. Introverted Feeling types are more muted in their expression of Feeling. ESTJs and ENTJs tend to see people who readily express Feeling as excessive, phony, and manipulative. When they are around an Introverted Feeling type, they may feel off-balance, needing to “walk on eggshells,†and afraid of being misunderstood or of unintentionally offending the person. But more often they may ignore Introverted Feeling types because they don’t express themselves directly. As we will see, the sensitivities of Extraverted Thinking types toward both of the dominant Feeling types (Extraverted Feeling types and Introverted Feeling types) are reflected in the expression of their own inferior Feeling.
I thought it was good until I read this:
Now from How everyday stress brings out our hidden personality by Noami L. Quenk, Page 76 Who happens to be an INFP.
Complete contrast from what Dr. A.J. Drenth is saying. Maybe he is the same expert from Married at First Sight.
The thing is, I do like INFPs a lot, but experience tells me, it doesn't work, INFPs are good listeners, because they are willing to understand, but that is where it stops.
As Jung said: One always has to answer in their main function, otherwise no contact is established. (1976b, p. 167) That would mean, F-dominant type needs another F-dominant type. Which the INTJ is nothing but.
[MENTION=6561]OrangeAppled[/MENTION], what do you think?
I disagree on this. Of course I can only speak for myself but I'm in a very satisfying relationship with a F-dom user (INFP more precisely) and I don't think our dominant functions being distinct plays any crucial role on the relationship. What I think is how developed the functions are, maybe that can be a bigger factor. Yet, I'm reluctant when people think of dating based on MBTI types. People and relationships are much more complex than that after all.
What I think may be of much more importance in the relationship I have is the fact that we are both introverts and intuitives, that really makes a difference for me. Even though I'm a Ni user and my SO is a Ne.
While INFJs are strong in extraverting their judgments, INTJs can be even more so because they lack the peacemaking, people-pleasing, and socially sensitive elements of Fe. This is why INTJs are often perceived as “brutally honest,†a trait that can be off-putting and misunderstood by types preferring a softer or more sensitive approach.
From your own article I'll quote
Refer to my previous post and "eggshells".
That is a generalization, I'm talking about an example, my personal experience in this case. I don't think I even fit the "INFJ stereotype". I hope you can understand the difference.
If you focus on this quote of mine, you get wronged in your own concept. Because that definition I've made would make INFJs and INTJs unsuitable for each other and both of them are Ni-dom. Which, in your opinion, is the major factor for a good match.