pure_mercury
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- MBTI Type
- ESFJ
Does this sound accurate? What do I need to look out for what this Enneagram type?
Strong Fe - initial desire to help and belong. 2w3s would be attracted to the entertainment industry, especially with an Sx instinct - the idea is that there is a need for everyone to love the person. You definitely show the 8-ish response when someone pushes back on you in a debate, becoming more forceful and intransigent (no offense). Also, your idealism of individualism corresponds with the 4's growth response - you're trying to make sure you don't let your innate predilection toward collectivism swallow your sense of self.
Thoughts?
I would agree on most of those points. I don't think I have a need for EVERYONE to love me, though. I have made peace with the reality that my vibe tends to attract or to repel people strongly. Do you think the individualist aspect is really like a survival mechanism? I mean, most people fear being too weird. Do you think I fear being too normal?
Exaggerating on the "everyone" point, of course, but I think no one would accuse you of not caring what other people think of you. "Made peace" isn't like the unhealthy 4w5's "I act the way I do because only some are worthy of understanding my greatness".
Not so much a survival mechanism (your forcefulness and stubbornness when challenged is), but more the unachievable goal you aspire to. At your core, you know you're just an everyday American, and you're happy with that. However, our culture celebrates those who separate themselves from the pack, so to speak. This would appeal to the 4-ish idealism in you. This might create a conflict, though - you're torn between "I want to do whatever I can for those around me" and "a good American is self-reliant".
As a result, you might attempt to help others by encouraging them to be responsible for themselves. The problem arises when that person, for whatever reason, is simply incapable of taking care of oneself. You want to be the go-to guy, but society dictates that you do not help too much, and this causes internal conflict.
Hi Merc!
do you give to get something in return?