chachamaru
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I am a pirate.
I will take your treasures. To make me rich.
I will take your treasures. To make me rich.
I am king of Oberon.
Monty Python IS literature!
Finally!
So when working class people go to university and major in something "non-practical" ....they're usually iNtuitives. I'm just saying.
Going to university is "education." Must one have to go to grad school to be middle class? Then that puts us back at economics with the "professional class."
Actually in some cases people who have gone to grad school work at low paying jobs. I've seen it happen.
Oh... well, these aren't discriminatory against people with your vision... they represent significant entry costs for any startup, including ones constructed on the traditional for-profit model.
And... environmental standards? How on earth can you complain about crony capitalism in one moment and then bitch about environmental requirements the next? I promise you... if Big Business could make the EPA disappear tomorrow, they would do so. Without hesitation.
The course of this conversation is leading me to believe that you aren't really interested in doing anything to help working-class folks. I'm beginning to suspect that you just like to bitch.
My. How presumptuous of you.
I am king of Marmie and Oberon.
Well, it's only a suspicion. I'm free to have opinions, right?
My point is, lots of people like to bitch on the internet about how unfair things are for the downtrodden. It's damned rare to find someone who's actually willing to roll up their sleeves and do something about it.
How much money is she making? Accumulated wealth is also useful information.
Edit: Those were mostly rhetorical questions; depending on age and success, she is almost certainly either upper-middle or upper-class.
really? I associate class with being a pain in the ass. because the classier someone preceives themselves the more judgemental they come off.
The problem with this thread is one is taking an outdated concept like "class" and trying to apply it to a society (the United States) for whom it's intended meaning (usually pre-war England) never fit all too well, and certainly doesn't fit today.
"Class" used to mean more than just an amount of money. Wealth was inherited for the large part, and the culture and attitudes that went with this wealth were fairly well-defined. Now wealth is often merely just wealth, and "class" is just marker for a certain tax bracket.
I know a woman from a middle class background, who worked as a stripper, and now is a doctor. What class is she?
yeahh. there are different "classes" according to different groups i feel like, too. i have lived in several different places, and the sociocultural structure in many of those places has been quite different. some professions are afforded more status in certain places; others in others. in some places last name is an important factor. in others, it is not. in some places how you came about your money is an important factor. in others, it is not. and perceptions even vary amongst groups of people within the same place.
In response to your earlier point about the EPA - no Big Business wouldn't, because they have the resources and infrastructure to maintain compliance. That gives them a huge advantage over potential smaller competitors. Most of those businesses have a large part in writing the regulations, after all. The problem is, along with safety regulations, that it's not a political winner to argue against unnecessary regulations for their anticompetitive effect, if the alternative is a perceived laxity on safety or environmental sensitivity.
Do you work in industry?
I am a pirate.