Well I dunno. It's only my two cents. If you pondering not being an INFJ then you're going to change your type regardless of the sentiments of those that disagree.
I think if you're doubting it in the first place, it's a good indicator that you're not satisfied with it. Just know that whatever stigmas and stereotypes you're coming across with INFJ will carry over to INTP, they'll just be different. So I'd make sure I was happy with the conversion entirely first. You seem really advent about not being an INFJ like it's such a bad thing..
Nothing to do with whether I'm satisfied with the INFJ stereotypes (which I'm not, but I'm not with INTP either...)
I don't think being an INFJ is a bad thing. I just think saying I'm an INFJ if I'm really an INTP is a bad thing
I just want the correct answer.
But yeah, most likely I'll come up with it myself and not listen to any of you.
I don't know you very well, so I have no first hand experience when it comes to your thought processes, but being an INFJ with a highly developed relief Ti [considering what you stated about your mother, an overstressed Fe can lead to the emergence of a powerful relief Ti to cope] makes more sense than Ne that kinda looks like Ni when Ti is involved, but then Si is completely bypassed as relief for development of inferior Fe, and then maybe you just never noticed before because every INTP on this site exaggerate and suppress various functions for no apparent reason.
Yeah, I was thinking exactly this. INFJ might make more sense (have a higher prior probability?), but that still doesn't mean INFJ is the most likely given the combination of prior and data.
Also, logical thought is a tool, and a faculty of every human mind, not really just Ti "users." It seems as though you use Ti and "logic" rather interchangeably, when I think they're quite separate. You're perfectly capable of loving logic as someone who primarily judges information based on Fe criteria for decision making.
I'm not using logic as analogous with Ti, although Ti is probably closer to "pure" logic than Te since it feeds on itself instead of environmental information. Doesn't matter much, though, as T is just deductive logic.
How do you know they're not INFJs mistyped as INTPs?
Well, I don't. But you can always use that argument, so it doesn't matter.
I don't have anywhere enough information here to work with. I still haven't the slightest idea about how your thought process works. Until I actually see statistical evidence, I can't make a call about your type whatsoever.
That being said, I do have enough information in this thread to make some analysis. It seems awfully apparent that you desire to not be an INFJ, and would prefer to be one of the "logical" types. This would probably stem from stereotypes about feelers being irrational and whatnot. Given that you have apparently displayed a strong Ti, INTP would be the most probable of NT types that you could fit into.
No no, it really doesn't have to do with not wanting to be INFJ. I just want to be correct. I never really entertained INTP as a possibility (although I've always maintained it was a close 2nd best fit type) until now.
(keeping in mind that the "Either-or" fallacy is an informal fallacy, I proceed.)
In this situation, if you were an INFJ whom didn't want to be an INFJ, you would likely be having a "false-rational" moment where you believe one point and use whatever evidence you can scrape up to support your case. If this scenario were true, the "I'm too logical/ have too strong of a Ti for an F" and "The Fe could have been conditioned" would fit the bill of the aforementioned evidence.
Yes, it could be confirmation bias, which is why I'm trying to take two stances in my analysis. I have to assume I'm INFJ and try to prove INTP wrong, then I have to assume I'm INTP and try to prove INFJ wrong. Then I have to compare the two analyses.
Another possible scenario is that you an INTP whom was previously mistyped as an INFJ and, given some contemplation time, has discovered that they are actually an INTP. In this scenario, you are an INTP who thinks they are an INTP, but you are not fully confident of this hypothesis. Also in this scenario, you've already reasoned that any behavior you have that could be attributed to an INFJ was generated from a combination of gradual conditioning and some form of Forer effect.
Right. This is the possibility I was considering when I made this thread.
I do not have sufficient evidence argue for either scenario. It is up to you to determine which one applies. However, the small amount of evidence I do have inclines me to favor the first scenario.
PS: As always, don't be too quick to rule out other types, especially the intermediate types between INTP and INFJ. (INFP and INTJ)
I will definitely rule out INTJ and INFP, though, as Te and Fi are some of my weakest two functions, in tests, but more importantly, through study and introspection.
And yes, it seems more likely overall to have an INFJ mistyping as INTP than an INTP mistyping as INFJ. But (do you know bayes rule?) that's only one part of the total likelihood of my type being one or the other.