Lauren Ashley
Revelation
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- sx/sp
Are 2 wrongs supposed to make a right?
I don't know. Maybe. But it happens anyway.
Are 2 wrongs supposed to make a right?
But, the bolded part is what I'm getting at....how much of this vent is due to some misconstrued understanding of sensing (or even types) and how much is really *ahem* grounded in the reality of what sensors are?
People are not consistent in their actions in real life and their written prejudices/stereotypes uttered from an anonymous online alias.
I would wager that many of those who have bought into "sensor hatred" in a thread or two would never divulge as such in real life, when in the presence of one.
It seems to me that it is alot easier to drop a rant online than to project dislike/disdain in person. Maybe I'm too much of an optimist, but in the vast experiences I have lived and the troves of people I have met, most have done a good job of maintaining appropriate civility.
Thoughts?
In real life, no one knows what the hell a "sensor" is.
On the forum, Intuition is held in high regard, and there's many instances of looking down on Sensors. I understand that the forum has way more intuits than sensors, but, why this prejudice? What about sensing (and its typological defintion) that makes it seem 'less superior' to intuition (as per the commentaries on this board)?
Do you mean that YOU in particular haven't experienced this?
If that's the case then a couple of reasons might be that you seem to be a cool person in general, and also ESTPs just seem to be easygoing and easy to get along with.
I know some intuitives (who aren't into MBTI) label sensors as "closed minded" or "slow." I also know/see sensors (who aren't into MBTI) label intuitives as "weird." I think people who buy into the whole "different is bad thing" are closed minded themselves, S/N preference doesn't really matter that much. You just have to be able to get along with people, and have some social common sense. If you see that someone is different, take the time to realize that you can learn a good bit from that person.
Well the tendencies aren't being misconstrued, we all see them. But is being closed minded, for example, inherently part of what it is to be a sensor or SJ? I don't think so, but it can be a byproduct.
I don't even think being close-minded is a byproduct of sensing. The same could be said by a Sensor to an Intuitive: "How can you be so close-minded to all that is going on around you, you dumb ignorant fuck?"
I don't even think being close-minded is a byproduct of sensing. The same could be said by a Sensor to an Intuitive: "How can you be so close-minded to all that is going on around you, you dumb ignorant fuck?"
Now, SJ, like with NJ, or any J, allows for greater speed of making up one's mind, which I don't fully agree is the same as being close-minded.
Well the tendencies aren't being misconstrued, we all see them. But is being closed minded, for example, inherently part of what it is to be a sensor or SJ? I don't think so, but it can be a byproduct.
Qre:us said:Now, SJ, like with NJ, or any J, allows for greater speed of making up one's mind, which I don't fully agree is the same as being close-minded.
Being closed minded is about not accepting the abstract world of new ideas.
SJ or NJ... has nothing to do with greater speed of making up one's mind.
if closed mindedness means to become attached to constructed theories without constantly checking for a pattern match with observed reality, then we know who is really prone to closed mindedness, dont we?
Im assuming you are pairing N stubborness over theories with close-mindedness
if closed mindedness means to become attached to constructed theories without constantly checking for a pattern match with observed reality, then we know who is really prone to closed mindedness, dont we?
nope, i was thinking a little further outside of the SN box there.
There are already two similar threads on this topic. Most people on the forum have at least heard about this "phenomenon" by now.
Of course I don't mean to be ungrateful, just kind of confused about the need for another one.
There are already two similar threads on this topic. Most people on the forum have at least heard about this "phenomenon" by now.
Of course I don't mean to be ungrateful, just kind of confused about the need for another one.