Oeufa
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and look at your avatar i mean come on!! haha
C is for Cookie - that's good enough for me
and look at your avatar i mean come on!! haha
I'm reading everything you write, I just don't find much of it relevant tbh. What exactly would you like me to clarify about Ne and whimsy?
C is for Cookie - that's good enough for me
i would also like to say that i am pretty certain enfps feel more thinkerly than infps..
I wanted to know what you mean by "whimsy" - "unless you're talking about free-association or a kind of randomness of speech and behavior."
You're bringing down the whole INTP notion with every post you generate. So to answer the thread question: YES.
By the way, "My running (and life) blog!" link doesn't work.
This is how an ESFP would become a good surgeon. As you point out, all ESFPs are not the same in this regard, just as there is considerable variation within every type.Then you have an ESFP who is able to compartmentalize tasks, to put aside innate flightiness and distractedness, whereas there is always an ESFP somewhere without that ability. Or to go to an extreme, my step-daughter, an ESFP whose hands shake terribly. [Edit - that means, the extreme of a non-ideal surgeon whose hands shake during surgery.
What is an "ideal surgeon"? How many perfectly adequate surgeons would you reject before finding an ideal? The ideal might change depending upon the surgery. Here, the best is the enemy of the good. I would look for (and have done so) a surgeon with a good track record of success in the surgery I was to have. Is this your ideal? If so, then we agree.If I wanted a hand-job, yes, just not surgery. But since you're talking about an "ideal" surgeon, I wouldn't want to be operated on by someone who is less than the ideal surgeon. Would you? Of course certain types are ideal for certain careers, in general. The MBTI was created based upon that very scenario. So when someone comes along and says that any type can belong to any career, that defeats the purpose of someone using the MBTI to make the ideal career choice. Because it's not the point to say that an ENFJ can be a program developer. We all know that reality doesn't always conform with theory. But reality isn't the ideal, where the ideal exists only in the mind.
I'm not ENFP . ENFPs are awesome, and so am I, but that doesn't make me one
To me, Bill Bailey is the personification of whimsy. Making ties between ideas that aren't connected, that sort of thing.
This is how an ESFP would become a good surgeon. As you point out, all ESFPs are not the same in this regard, just as there is considerable variation within every type.
What is an "ideal surgeon"? How many perfectly adequate surgeons would you reject before finding an ideal? The ideal might change depending upon the surgery. Here, the best is the enemy of the good. I would look for (and have done so) a surgeon with a good track record of success in the surgery I was to have. Is this your ideal? If so, then we agree.
MBTI was NOT created to box people into career choices based upon type, or to identify ideal careers for any type. It was based on the premise that certain types tended to be happier and more successful doing certain jobs, not that this was a necessary absolute. It is a guideline to help people understand themselves, not a perfect list of correspondences.
The key is for each person to understand his/her strengths and weaknesses, preferences and pet peeves, so they can be better informed as they evaluate job/career options. This certainly can help someone identify a job matching their type. If someone is interested in a job atypical for their type, though, it can highlight what the major sources of dissatisfaction might be, not to dissuade them from the job, but to show them how to approach it in a way more suited to their interests and talents. It is often the typological "odd man out" who is able to break group-think in an organization, and bring added dimensions of creativity and perspective.
weeelll you don't read like an intp from this thread at least..imo
Not necessarily putting on an act - I've met him before and he really is that way in real life too. It's a good case for me being INTP though - we're able to chameleon. Perhaps there are too many ENFPs on this thread so I'm starting to act like one
There is at least a hint of INTP (a certain criticality and independence) but that shows through with many types. INTPs can be quietly gregarious, but Oeufa doesn't give off that kind of vibe.
I didn't mean anything like "chameleon," just that I could learn the same trick. That would take more time to learn than a true chameleon personality would require.
If I had to guess, I'd say you're acting nervous and frustrated here, while hiding it behind a flustered flurry of emoticons.
That's a bit of a leap, considering you don't know how I interact with others in real life.
Well sure. I had to adopt a different persona for debating, but I consider that a type of chameleon-ing
Why would I be nervous?
[MENTION=13589]Mal+[/MENTION] you are not going to argue her into believing she is NFP. You made your point and now it is only arguing for the sake of arguing.
[MENTION=9046]Oeufa[/MENTION] they do have a point in that you come across as Fi in this thread. But that doesn't necessarily mean much. A video would be a great idea.
Using one's sig to pass on messages to others is passive-aggressive.
Mal+ you are not going to argue her into believing she is NFP. You made your point and now it is only arguing for the sake of arguing.
Oeufa they do have a point in that you come across as Fi in this thread. But that doesn't necessarily mean much. A video would be a great idea.
Ok, but I didn't say Fi and I don't want to type others through JCF. The MBTI works just fine for me.
It was a joke, since you were the one who pointed out to me my links were broken
It's more accurate with functions than it is by 16 profiles, IMO.