Thalassa
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We aren't really sure whether he's an INTj or INTp... he hasn't necessarily specified that little detail.
But yeah, I'm pretty much in the same boat as you, with the exception of relating to INFp somewhat. I do relate strongly to ISFp, but I only act diplomatic and "in the middle" about things when I get afraid or unhealthy.
I have a question for you, do you relate to ISFp a lot in general, or do you feel that you might relate to that description more when you're depressed, and angry to a point where you feel like imploding? Because in stress SEEs lash out with their Si and Fe. So if the SEE is frequently stressed... he could relate to the SEI description somewhat. That's what was happening to me... I used to go through huge bouts of depression and stress, and didn't really have a way to get through it without just waiting it out. I am perfectly capable of being diplomatic and in the middle of things if I need to be, but it's not really what I want to be doing most of the time. I'm pretty opinionated, and do enjoy taking sides on issues; and feel that you forge bonds with people based on some of these things. I also do really enjoy relaxing and chilling with friends, but that's more of a thing that I do to "tone down" and isn't really my natural drive. My natural drive I feel is to actually be doing things. Too much relaxing makes me crazy. More than one day off at work in a row drives me nuts because there is nothing going on. This isn't SEI at all.
I also am much more aware of Te in my life than Ti. I think you're the same way... Ti is very unconscious and unused for me socionics wise. I do often think about how efficient things are, what the best way of doing something is; but I get really annoyed when I have to think systematically, and follow a specific way of doing things. I'd say it fits you pretty well, a Hidden Agenda Te (which is where Te is at for SEE and IEE).
I can't really say you seem to value much Fe in a socionics sense. You don't seem to enjoy emoting for the sake of it, or that from others. You may be good at picking up on these things and may be comfortable doing it, but that's because Fe would be our demonstrative.
Lol the thing about the extreme details is that you need to actually understand ALL of them to understand socionics, and then the relationships start making sense. You have to understand the functions and how they play out. Where you go in stress, how you are in certain situations, etc.
Anyway, yes, I relate a lot to the ISFp description, except I do not look like a bouncing round ball (god forbid I ever have that much of a weight problem) and I am not always the peacemaker. I think the ISFp sounds a lot like me, and I don't mean under stress or while depressed. I don't work well for others, I've been an independent contractor for most of my life.
Of course, always, either on-line and IRL, I am this:
SEEs may be quite faithful and allegiant to those they are close to; however, their relations and emotional reactions towards others may be volatile and lubricious. Though they often aspire to treat everyone with whom they interact in a convivial manner, they may exhibit strong (and often variable) dislike of certain individuals. They may maintain an internal network of certain individuals whom they regard as friends, and others who they regard as jerks or otherwise with some antagonism. They often have little conception of the history of their emotional reactions towards others; they may be inimical and perncious one day, while incognizant of the conflict on the next.
I tend to let things go, get into an argument, and be friendly the next day (or the next week) and I don't tolerate people I don't like well. Of course the ISFp description also said ISFp's don't like being around people they don't like, and their natural charm will disappear and their speech will become unintelligeble ...and yes, I can sound like I'm either really boring or cruel around someone I don't like.
To me, I seem something like the SEE or SEI rather than the ESI ..who, as I said, sounds more like an MBTI ISFJ, sounds a lot like JTG, and he said so himself, I'm not the one just saying that about him.
I just took the test and it it said SEI lol....but that SEE is 90 percent as likely...and it also says "at her worst, the SEI can become highly emotional, and these emotions can become very volatile--changing quickly from happiness to sadness to anger within minutes. Furthermore, these volatile and strong emotional states will be shared freely with those around her--to either their pleasure or detriment."
And that's true.
I do like to do things, but I can certainly stand multiple days off of work...I don't identify with you saying you can't stand more than one day off of work, that sounds like my ESFJ friend, she runs herself to death, and she says it's to avoid thinking, and she's aware that she probably needs therapy because she will "do" until she drops...I think she's an Enneagram 3.
I also read the thing about being Merry or whatever, and I think I might be a Merry quadra, more childish. I also relate to this aspect of the Socionics Fe
Even after explosive arguments, these types find it hard to hold grudges, and can tolerate people they (in principle) don't like, as long as the situation is primarily social and doesn't require too close contact. They prefer misgivings to be out in the open; they believe that the silent treatment is one of the worst things you can do to a person, and only aggravates the underlying problem.
I don't know, though, I don't understand Socionics that well, not as well as you do.