Sizzling Berry
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INFPs are you rebellious? How would you describe your particular way of rebelliousness??
Well, if I don't have a strong opinion on a matter being debated I tend to play devil's advocate a lot (taking the opposite stance simply because no one else is) (...) .
Also, I generally don't care about social norms, and just do my own thing most of the time...
What makes you do that?
I think there is a difference between not wanting to sacrifice your beliefs, and going against the tide simply for the sake of going against the tide...I was thinking that the part in bold refers to me, but I have been told lately by 3 different people that I was a non-conformist.
Because there is little point in debate if there isn't a debate.
Plus, it seems to be easier for me to see the other side of things than the people I tend to be around...
I think there is a difference between not wanting to sacrifice your beliefs, and going against the tide simply for the sake of going against the tide...
...Examples? Why? I'm just saying that whether or not I agree with it, I can usually see my opponents point of view in an argument/debate. If I'm taking a strong stance against it, the reason is usually that I don't agree with it, not that I can't understand it. This is different than the reasoning of certain people I know, which is more along the lines of, "Your point makes no sense, and/or is stupid. It has nothing behind it. I don't understand what makes you think that way."Examples, please...
I don't know. Are you only a rebel if you consider yourself one? If so, then no. However, if someone considering you a rebel makes you one, then yes.Can you be a rebel by accident? Without deliberation?
I have to know why, and this annoys people and is perceived as having a questioning and independent attitude.
Any way.... don't mean to be rebellious, but that seems to be people's estimation, yeah.
I don't know. Are you only a rebel if you consider yourself one? If so, then no. However, if someone considering you a rebel makes you one, then yes.
I don't know if I would describe myself as a rebel. I mean, I am not trying to rebel on something just for the sake of it. But I also refuse to do, think or say things just to conform with the general opinion all the time either, and this can happen often enough. I very readily question the general opinion. The question is if thinking with your own, somewhat maverick head alone qualifies you already as a rebel.
It is also not like I am being very openly rebellious usually either. I can show my disagreement in a diplomatic way most of the time. Often enough I might just keep things for myself as well when I don't see a point in sharing my views (because I know it is a helpless case anyway or it is not important enough for me to start an argument), which doesn't change the fact though that I keep to my own views.
Well I'm still questioning my type and I wouldn't label myself a rebel, but assuming I'm INFP, the way descriptions portray us like where all extremely thin-skinned gentle souls trapped in our own little fantasy world bothers me. Sure, an INFP whose values strongly conflict with the status quo will become wounded, but why shouldn't that dissatisfaction also break loose and surface in a more openly rebellious way? Kurt Cobain comes to mind - he was definitely seen as a rebel in his time and he always striked me as INFPish.
“Every genuine boy is a rebel and an anarch. If he were allowed to develop according to his own instincts, his own inclinations, society would undergo such a radical transformation as to make the adult revolutionary cower and cringe.†-John Andrew Holmes
“All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.†- T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia)
I can see INTPs as 10 times more rebellious than INFPs (those INTPs who rebel this statement are only proving my point up front). If I'm not mistaken, INFPs seem to be rebellious in different ways than INTPs, in ethical matters instead of, well... everything.