nanook
a scream in a vortex
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thinker and that which is thought of cant be separated. this is always the case and is in principle understood from the rational stage onwards.
but with a topic like typology, as i handle it - as introverted resonance-groping of the territory - this principle becomes clear to the last consequence.
to gain complete clarity on typology, together with integral insight into stages of development, would transform the human condition into an objectively better state.
subjectively, it may look different: subjectively it is unclear what better means. the human subject can seemingly accept different circumstances, and (involuntarily) decide what it is content with and what it sees as a problem.
stone age people were already happy, when they hunted a mammoth. later we wanted to find God. today we want to see right through him, from quantum mechanics to the god-helmet.
*challenge accepted*
to my Subject, understanding typology has become an intrinsic need.
in my life, typology has become a trans-rational principle of navigation.
people come into my life as answers to 'typological' questions.
it takes me by surprise.
I generally navigate through reality [territory] by seeking to understand it and in so far, as i misunderstand reality, my navigation can become a nightmare.
getting to know people of different types is not about the discovery of differences - or it should not stop there. but differences have to be discovered before you can see people for what they are. but it's not only about getting to know them as they are, either.
the eight functions define (in part) the human condition as a whole
and everyone carries in himself all the functions.
everyone's live is set up by the interaction of all those functions, in self and other.
the principle may become more dominant, as we reinforce awareness of the functions.
in getting to know the functions you get to know your self, but not as an individual.
it is impossible, to interpret the overall picture of "your" eight functions as "this is me as a person", instead this "big-picture self" contains a person, like a spider web contains a fly.
the discovery of typological driving forces in one's own life carries introspective perception beyond the person and contradicts her seemingly separate existence.
as a person, one feels: "I don't identify as this, therefore this must occur to me as counterpart" and "this is also sort of in me, behind my back, and my internal relation towards it determines how my relationship to the correlating external counterpart unfolds"
the unique self is not the character, it's the whole dance.
sometimes, my big words seems to over trump the reality of my life/actualization.
there is no intention of deceit. it's just how my thinking goes...
my thinking style, at my stage, seeks to express what is essential, as trend, as possibility, as principle of probability of the collective subject of the human condition.
I find myself and my live enchanted by these trans-personal principles and see my journey as mystical journey (or should i say 'mythological' - it's both) regardless of whether I hardly progress, wander in circles or get lost altogether.
likewise, I perceive other people's lives, as only seemingly occurring in the same physical space, in seemingly similar bodies, I perceive their lives as unique journey, relative to their initial coordinates in spirit, following unique laws, striving towards a unique target and therefore as the experience of unique realities (rules/destinies).
C.G. Jung: "The more uncertain I have felt about myself, the more there has grown up in me a feeling of kinship with all things. In fact it seems to me as if that alienation which so long separated me from the world has become transferred into my own inner world and has revealed to me an unexpected unfamiliarity with myself." (Memories Dreams Reflections, page 361 in german edition)
but with a topic like typology, as i handle it - as introverted resonance-groping of the territory - this principle becomes clear to the last consequence.
to gain complete clarity on typology, together with integral insight into stages of development, would transform the human condition into an objectively better state.
subjectively, it may look different: subjectively it is unclear what better means. the human subject can seemingly accept different circumstances, and (involuntarily) decide what it is content with and what it sees as a problem.
stone age people were already happy, when they hunted a mammoth. later we wanted to find God. today we want to see right through him, from quantum mechanics to the god-helmet.
*challenge accepted*
to my Subject, understanding typology has become an intrinsic need.
in my life, typology has become a trans-rational principle of navigation.
people come into my life as answers to 'typological' questions.
it takes me by surprise.
I generally navigate through reality [territory] by seeking to understand it and in so far, as i misunderstand reality, my navigation can become a nightmare.
getting to know people of different types is not about the discovery of differences - or it should not stop there. but differences have to be discovered before you can see people for what they are. but it's not only about getting to know them as they are, either.
the eight functions define (in part) the human condition as a whole
and everyone carries in himself all the functions.
everyone's live is set up by the interaction of all those functions, in self and other.
the principle may become more dominant, as we reinforce awareness of the functions.
in getting to know the functions you get to know your self, but not as an individual.
it is impossible, to interpret the overall picture of "your" eight functions as "this is me as a person", instead this "big-picture self" contains a person, like a spider web contains a fly.
the discovery of typological driving forces in one's own life carries introspective perception beyond the person and contradicts her seemingly separate existence.
as a person, one feels: "I don't identify as this, therefore this must occur to me as counterpart" and "this is also sort of in me, behind my back, and my internal relation towards it determines how my relationship to the correlating external counterpart unfolds"
the unique self is not the character, it's the whole dance.
sometimes, my big words seems to over trump the reality of my life/actualization.
there is no intention of deceit. it's just how my thinking goes...
my thinking style, at my stage, seeks to express what is essential, as trend, as possibility, as principle of probability of the collective subject of the human condition.
I find myself and my live enchanted by these trans-personal principles and see my journey as mystical journey (or should i say 'mythological' - it's both) regardless of whether I hardly progress, wander in circles or get lost altogether.
likewise, I perceive other people's lives, as only seemingly occurring in the same physical space, in seemingly similar bodies, I perceive their lives as unique journey, relative to their initial coordinates in spirit, following unique laws, striving towards a unique target and therefore as the experience of unique realities (rules/destinies).
C.G. Jung: "The more uncertain I have felt about myself, the more there has grown up in me a feeling of kinship with all things. In fact it seems to me as if that alienation which so long separated me from the world has become transferred into my own inner world and has revealed to me an unexpected unfamiliarity with myself." (Memories Dreams Reflections, page 361 in german edition)