Okay, I'm tired of this discussion since you're weaseling around, manipulating what you've clearly stated
What's wrong, getting stressed out about the obnoxious conversation you've initiated?
Don't bother, with your level of reading comprehension, it's next to impossible.
No, I didn't. Go back and re-read the parts you've bolded. The limitation of MBTI is that it focuses too much on the highly observable traits, it has many other less severe issues. Yet, that doesn't mean we need to discard it altogether.
If we find a theory to be on the right track but lacking in certain respects, it means we need to improve it, not trash it.
MBTI has some correlation and one significant correlation to Big Five. The Big Five trait with significant correlation to MBTI is E/I.
This is the most well-researched and well-documented of correlations between the two systems. Yet, despite a scarcity of research into how the other aspects of MBTI and Big Five interrelate, there are other important similarities that still need to be researched in greater detail.
The reason why they significantly correlate is that they're both premised on social interaction orientation where Jung's theory does not.
That is completely irrelevant. Social interaction is one aspect of human behavior that psychologists can study in an empirical manner. They can also study all of the other attributes that were discussed in both systems.
You can't trash something and then use it as evidence of your beliefs. Yes, beliefs and faith, rather than any well reasoned logic.
There is nothing I can do to help you until your reading comprehension improves.
If you want the studies, google them yourself. They're easy to find.
That's not how it works. When you pretend to know something because of a study you passingly allude to, you have to cite it. I've already done too much to help you look like you have something meaningful to contribute, so you're on your own the rest of the way.
Anyways, my perspective is that all typologies whether Jung, MBTI, Kiersey (hate his fucking profiles for the NTJs since they're over-the top complimentary), Cognitive Functions (most fun variety), Enneagram, Big Five, etc., have interesting observations about people and can be useful, particularly when focus is put on the process, rather than the goal of typing.
Completely meritless. There are enormous differences between Keirsey and Jung. The Enneagram is an entirely differeny system. The fact that you're running them all together shows that you don't have the foggiest idea as to what you're talking about.
Yeah, I'm a J who focuses on process, at least relative to typologies, since they're a journey of self-discovery.
"J" just refers to Extroverted Judgment. Rational functions refer to conscious judgment, be they introverted or extroverted. Relying on extroverted judgment more than on introverted judgment does not make you any more or less focused on "processes".
The less self-aware people are, the less they'll be able to type themselves. It's a conundrum since to type themselves, it requires not only brutal honesty to themselves but the ability to discern preferential patterns within themselves. And yet, most seek typologies to find themselves, hence why my suggested journey focus.
This is nothing more than your fanciful self-indulgence and this notion offers no meaningful content as to what typology is or how others can learn about it.
Except for Big Five which is about as close to science as it gets, the rest are pseudo science at best.
The Big Five is the most empirically well-researched model. The MBTI and various other Jungian systems can also be treated in such manner, but the empirical investigations in question have not been carried out to this end.
Or maybe I should summarize like this. Quit playing pseudo-intellectual social games. You know squat about typologies, judging by your responses to me. And I'm far from being an expert, only a dabbler.
You see no contradiction here? By your own admission, you are a dabbler, which implies that you're not in the position to evaluate the level of knowledge others display.
You'd be well advised to educate yourself on the Dunning Kruger effect.
The Dunning Kruger effect on our forums
That will make this forum much less frustrating for you and it will benefit you in many other walks of life.