hahahhaha- yeah in a way i do.
just saying you shouldnt aim to become a 2 you should aim to become healthy.
Well, the thread title was not to be taken literally. I assume the people who bother to reply know why an 8 "wants to become" a 2. But yeah I could have phrased it better - how can an 8 integrate into a 2?
i'd say you should look how does extreme 8 behavior manifest in yourself, and WHEN do you act like that, when you are in your extreme it's out of running from some unpleasant feeling... so try dealing with feeling, instead of reacting in your usual way.
The 8 descriptions make us sound like psychopaths. I've got to say that the 8s I know...I usually hate them. The list of names in some of the sites talking about 8s make me wanna puke (Denzel Washington?! Sean Penn?! Charlie Brown?! Those guys are dicks! I can be unpolished but I don't exert all that fucking anger onto people). Violence, which seems to be associated with 8s, is also something I've never had problems with - I never really hit anyone in my life after middle school. I hate violence. Even when people want to kick MY ass lool
As far as unpleasant feelings hmm....
You avoid being weak, vulnerable, controlled or manipulated. Secretly, you fear being caught off guard, harmed and/or humiliated. Being mistreated and at the mercy of injustice are among your deepest fears. You resist and defy anything that is imposed upon you. Fearing deprivation, you avoid ever having to go without what you deem essential to your survival. You do everything in your power to avoid being dependent on anyone or anything. You have a distaste for mediocrity and anything that feels contrived.
This was posted on an enneagram site. This is all true apart from the fear of material deprivation. I don't know how one is supposed to deal with it though.
also, you didnt say why are you not healthy as you want to be, what's your problem.
Well to be honest I don't really relate too much to most 8 descriptions. I hate bossing anyone around. Certainly don't think I have the right to lead anyone either.
But it's not that anything is necessarily wrong with me. I just want to be the best person I can be. And they say that is done by acquiring 2 traits. I think I already possess some. When I
am like an 8 I identify more with the supposedly integrated 8 descriptions. But I could be missing something. I am consistently confrontational, and not overtly nice or magnanimous.
Anyways, I'm probably a chimera though. ENFPs aren't supposed to be 8s. And 8s aren't supposed to be ENFPs. I seem to neither have the qualities of an ENFP nor the ones of an 8, which is crap!