INTPness
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I actually hesitate to "boss" people around when I'm just hanging out, I just let people do whatever.
I really do not understand why others think ENTJs are bossy and steamroll others, I can't get it at all.
I am thinking that our assertiveness and ability to talk to others in a hardcore "direct" manner my possibly give people that impression.
I think Te hates it when it sees someone doing something "the wrong way". All the ESTJ's I've known are famous for picking apart everything that someone does. Why are you doing this? Why are you doing that? Why'd you do it that way, when you could have done it this way? ENTJ's, IME, are different, but I still think it irks them when they see inefficiencies or things that they would consider "unjust". I made a comment one time that was uncalled for and an ENTJ (who was not even my supervisor), pulled me into a private room and ripped into me - albeit in a very professional way. So, inefficiency of movement (or of time) and "injustice" are two instances that can cause the steamroller to come out.
Also, when someone has taken advantage of the ENTJ. I saw an ENTJ lose about $2,500 on a "handshake deal gone bad", and steam was coming out his nostrils. He was out for revenge!!!
When I spot Te in a person, I try to "let them lead" (because I know it comes natural to them) and I'm not one to really enjoy being in the spotlight anyways. But, it definitely can seem like steamrolling to some of the softer types (for lack of a better term) when the ENTJ is "giving orders". "You go do this! I need you to go over there and do that!"
90% of the time, I'll go along with it. If it starts to be too much, however, I bark back.
So, that's my question to you ENTJ's. How do you react when you are taking charge and trying to get something done (and maybe steamrolling people without realizing it) and someone stubborn (like me ) says to you, "Wait a second? Who died and made you God? Quit talking to me like I'm 4 years old and talk to me like an adult. I'm on your side and I'm here to help, but I'm not your slave. Capiche?"
Do you respect that? Or would you be more likely to think, "Whatever! Get out of my way then. I don't need you on my team."????
Cuz that's how it is for non-ENTJ's sometimes. I, for one, like your leadership 90% of the time. But, the other 10% of the time it's just WAY too much. WAY over the top. And as a fellow NT, those are the times that my Ti comes out and I basically say, "Back off!!!"
You guys are awesome. It's just that 10% of the time it's like, "What did this guy eat for breakfast?"