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I could have put this in the MBTI sub, but went with this one because I think it has a bit more of an effect on enneagram.
I was talking to [MENTION=4945]EJCC[/MENTION] last evening, and one thing that was briefly mentioned that, as a 1, I am much more apt to express anger and vent than one would typically expect for a 1. It kind of runs counter to what 1's are about. I said it was because I am Fe, and it changes things a bit. It got me thinking: How much of an effect does MBTI have on the expression of enneagram. I'm focusing on the MBTI->ennagram as opposed to the opposite, since enneagram involves expression more directly and consistently than MBTI does, so this is the more apt way to discuss it.
Enneagram types and MBTI Types tend to have fairly strong overlaps. Highlander published some great charts on this mined from the forums a while back (can't find the thread at the moment unfortunately). When things are in harmony things tend to be expressed as are typical for an enneagram type. But what of the cases where it's an uncommon pairing, or a rare pairing? How do these expressions change, do they commonly change, and does it make it more difficult for someone to type themselves correctly?
We do occasionally see individuals show up with MBTI and ennagram types listed that are the statistically common pairings (take INTP-5 for example), only to later change upon deeper investigation. A lot of the cited reasons for this is they thought their functions and thinking translated pretty easily into a given enneagram type. Humans are complex though, and there's no reason to think a certain way of thinking (MBTI) is going to consistently dictate behaviors (enneagram).
I don't think it would be possible for there to be a quantified summarized way to explain all this, simply because there's well over 200 type combinations. You can't easily account for that when all of their reasons are different. So, to those of you who have an uncommon MBTI-enneagram pairing, how do you think you differ from the "classic" enneagram depiction, and why do you think you differ from that? Those with common pairings can weigh in their thoughts as well on this matter. Further, was their difficulty in figuring out your types because of this?
Discuss.
I was talking to [MENTION=4945]EJCC[/MENTION] last evening, and one thing that was briefly mentioned that, as a 1, I am much more apt to express anger and vent than one would typically expect for a 1. It kind of runs counter to what 1's are about. I said it was because I am Fe, and it changes things a bit. It got me thinking: How much of an effect does MBTI have on the expression of enneagram. I'm focusing on the MBTI->ennagram as opposed to the opposite, since enneagram involves expression more directly and consistently than MBTI does, so this is the more apt way to discuss it.
Enneagram types and MBTI Types tend to have fairly strong overlaps. Highlander published some great charts on this mined from the forums a while back (can't find the thread at the moment unfortunately). When things are in harmony things tend to be expressed as are typical for an enneagram type. But what of the cases where it's an uncommon pairing, or a rare pairing? How do these expressions change, do they commonly change, and does it make it more difficult for someone to type themselves correctly?
We do occasionally see individuals show up with MBTI and ennagram types listed that are the statistically common pairings (take INTP-5 for example), only to later change upon deeper investigation. A lot of the cited reasons for this is they thought their functions and thinking translated pretty easily into a given enneagram type. Humans are complex though, and there's no reason to think a certain way of thinking (MBTI) is going to consistently dictate behaviors (enneagram).
I don't think it would be possible for there to be a quantified summarized way to explain all this, simply because there's well over 200 type combinations. You can't easily account for that when all of their reasons are different. So, to those of you who have an uncommon MBTI-enneagram pairing, how do you think you differ from the "classic" enneagram depiction, and why do you think you differ from that? Those with common pairings can weigh in their thoughts as well on this matter. Further, was their difficulty in figuring out your types because of this?
Discuss.