Eric B
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Powerlessness is said to be a stressor for NT's by Berens, and mastery the core need, yet you do not see this described for NF's. In the traditional temperament model, the Choleric was the one who sought power. Yet Berens, following Keirsey, links the NF to Choleric instead of the NT (this mainly because of the "exciteability" of one and the "coolness" of the other).
NF needs are "meaning and significance" and "unique identity".
But the old Choleric on the other hand is never ascribed such goals as "building bridges between people", "their lives center around deep empathetic relationships", "creating harmony", "natural givers of sincere compliments", "working toward the greater good".
They are purely focused on power for their own goals, (and empathy is often the biggest thing they are said to lack!) While this can be associated with "significance" and "identity", the motivations are completely different from what Keirsey and Berens describe for the NF.
So what I was wondering is if NF's might use power seeking to fulfill their need for meaning, significance and unique identity, and if NT's might develop significance and identity issues if they don't have the power, mastery and competence then need.
NF types seem to be described as allowing control by others (being influenced, even taken advantage of,etc), as well as not imposing on them (allowing people to have their own unique identity), the exception being when values are at stake.
So would NF's describe themselves as having any kind of "power" issues?
NF needs are "meaning and significance" and "unique identity".
But the old Choleric on the other hand is never ascribed such goals as "building bridges between people", "their lives center around deep empathetic relationships", "creating harmony", "natural givers of sincere compliments", "working toward the greater good".
They are purely focused on power for their own goals, (and empathy is often the biggest thing they are said to lack!) While this can be associated with "significance" and "identity", the motivations are completely different from what Keirsey and Berens describe for the NF.
So what I was wondering is if NF's might use power seeking to fulfill their need for meaning, significance and unique identity, and if NT's might develop significance and identity issues if they don't have the power, mastery and competence then need.
NF types seem to be described as allowing control by others (being influenced, even taken advantage of,etc), as well as not imposing on them (allowing people to have their own unique identity), the exception being when values are at stake.
So would NF's describe themselves as having any kind of "power" issues?